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      Too true, python can be beautiful and succinct or like a huge plate of spaghetti cut up with scissors

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      Every language starts out as beautiful, then it becomes popular, a whole lot of new features get wedged into it, and everyone who’s watched a 5 minute tutorial video starts coding in it.

      I remember the days when Python, Java and even Perl were considered beautiful.

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    Once you get used to the Rust syntax, it actually makes the code look cleaner.

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      Ans you also learn to format it properly.

      Generally any new santax looks ugly. Then when you understand why it is written like it is it starts looking good.

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    One big reason Nim never really caught on is because we’ve got lots of fast-ish languages with garbage collection (like Go, which sucks a lot of oxygen away from Nim IMO). Rust introduced a new concept to the mainstream that lets you program safely without a runtime hit for garbage collection.

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        To my knowledge, Ada doesn’t have an equivalent to Rust’s borrow checker. I also think I covered that base by specifying “mainstream” 😀

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    What are the last two? I know Python and C, but haven’t seen the last two.

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      The third one is rust which has become a meme at this point. Programmers like it because it has almost as much performance as C but has a lot of safeguards preventing memory errors and vulnerabilities. I have no idea what the last one is tho

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          I’m pretty skeptical it could be as fast and safe as Rust without the added challenge. Like, even doing what Rust did was a big deal.

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            I could be wrong, but based on the Wikipedia article it seems like it’s more trying to be a python replacement than a rust/c++/Java/etc replacement. The big thing with rust is that it’s rules allow memory safety without a garbage collector, while unless I missed something it seems like nim just uses a garbage collector. Not that that’s necessarily some huge problem or anything, but you know, different purposes

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            Can compile to C which then compiles using your favourite compiler. So it can operate at the speed of C

            And the new memory management system is similar to rusts system (and can be fully disabled if you want manual memory management)

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              Can compile to C which then compiles using your favourite compiler. So it can operate at the speed of C

              Technically, it all compiles to assembly, but Python is still a lot slower than C or Rust. Speed is lost along the way through those layers of abstraction.

              And the new memory management system is similar to rusts system (and can be fully disabled if you want manual memory management)

              So it doesn’t have a garbage collector? I’m going to have to actually look into this myself.

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            I think it transpiles to C so theoretically it could be quite fast, but I doubt the generated C is as fast as manually written C or Rust.