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This is an ill argument: the cost of buying a new cargo bike may be in the same ballpark of a badly used small car, but the cost of running it is negligible.
Try to sum up the following yearly costs:
gas
insurance
property tax
maintenance
parking
You end up with something like between 1k€ and 3k€ each year. Multiply this by the years you want to keep your (badly used) car, and then compare the total price
It’s not an “ill argument”. I don’t drive a car and never have, so I don’t pay any of the costs of running a car and I won’t be paying them when I get a cargo bike either. The issue isn’t the total lifetime cost, but the initial upfront cost. I just don’t have $15,000 to spend on a bike
I happened to see it in the thumbnail of the video.
It is very expensive compared to regular bikes, which I have bought many of over the years.
So I made a comment lamenting about the expensive price tag for that specific style of bike I happen to be interested in.
It wasn’t a meta commentary on cargo bikes in general. It wasn’t a complaint about total cost of ownership. It wasn’t anything other than "I want one of those, but it’s expensive.
Ok, no bad feelings. You do know tho that “it costs like a car” is a typical anti-cargo bike argument, right?
I also think and agree that cargo bikes are expensive, much more than a typical bike, but why you mentioned 15k? Is it the actual price of that bike? I’m just curious…
I have no idea. Maybe the bottles the guy in the picture is carrying on his cargo bike are full of very expensive wine?
I mean, I have no doubt you can find a cargo bike that costs even more than 15k, but when investing 5-8 k you are already buying some really good, high quality, fully equipped, electrically assisted cargo bikes.
Compared to used car prices, unfortunately there are not many used cargo bikes. I think the cheapest new option would be like the unfinished project I’m riding, which is fine on small hills or if you don’t mind working hard sometimes, top assist speed 15mph (+~$500 more = moar⚡)
If only cargo bikes like the one in the picture didn’t cost as much as a small car
They don’t where I live, though they aren’t cheap. But within reach for most people that needs one I’d say.
This is an ill argument: the cost of buying a new cargo bike may be in the same ballpark of a badly used small car, but the cost of running it is negligible. Try to sum up the following yearly costs:
You end up with something like between 1k€ and 3k€ each year. Multiply this by the years you want to keep your (badly used) car, and then compare the total price
It’s not an “ill argument”. I don’t drive a car and never have, so I don’t pay any of the costs of running a car and I won’t be paying them when I get a cargo bike either. The issue isn’t the total lifetime cost, but the initial upfront cost. I just don’t have $15,000 to spend on a bike
I didn’t write that you drove anything, what I wrote has nothing to do with who you are or what you do, just what you wrote.
And you know, you can buy second hand cargo bikes too? I don’t think that 15k$ can buy a new car, can they?
I am eyeing off a specific style of cargo ebike.
I happened to see it in the thumbnail of the video.
It is very expensive compared to regular bikes, which I have bought many of over the years.
So I made a comment lamenting about the expensive price tag for that specific style of bike I happen to be interested in.
It wasn’t a meta commentary on cargo bikes in general. It wasn’t a complaint about total cost of ownership. It wasn’t anything other than "I want one of those, but it’s expensive.
Chill out
Ok, no bad feelings. You do know tho that “it costs like a car” is a typical anti-cargo bike argument, right?
I also think and agree that cargo bikes are expensive, much more than a typical bike, but why you mentioned 15k? Is it the actual price of that bike? I’m just curious…
No, I was unaware of that particular dog whistle, which explains why I got the reaction I did.
Thank you for the heads up.
Urban Arrow is maybe a little over €6k fully decked out. Yeah, not sure where 15k would come from.
I have no idea. Maybe the bottles the guy in the picture is carrying on his cargo bike are full of very expensive wine?
I mean, I have no doubt you can find a cargo bike that costs even more than 15k, but when investing 5-8 k you are already buying some really good, high quality, fully equipped, electrically assisted cargo bikes.
They’re a little pricey I suppose, but judging by a few minutes comparing gumtree listings for hatchback cars and cargo bikes:
< 20% the cost of a hatchback in analogous condition/age/fanciness.
To be clear, I was explicitly talking about cargo bikes like the one in the video thumbnail.
It was a lamentation that the specific style of bike I want, that is featured in that video, is so expensive.
It wasn’t a meta commentary on total cost of ownership, or cargo bikes in general.
Yeah, I agree that there aren’t many budget cargo-in-front options yet (none that I could find in 5 sec of googling).
Compared to used car prices, unfortunately there are not many used cargo bikes. I think the cheapest new option would be like the unfinished project I’m riding, which is fine on small hills or if you don’t mind working hard sometimes, top assist speed 15mph (+~$500 more = moar⚡)
$3k acoustic supercargo, 440lb max load yubabikes.com/cargobikestore/supercargo/
+ $570 tiny 250W 190Wh #eBike wheel ➕ torque arm hilltopperbikes.com/product/sprinter-12-mile-24v-electric-bike-kit-copy/
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