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“Will you vote for Biden in the 2024 election?” [Y/N]

    • Stovetop@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      It’s not my first choice, but I’ll take enabling genocide over enabling genocide, Russian imperialism, the collapse of NATO, the elimination of reproductive and marriage rights, the spread of homophobia, and the fall of democracy in the US.

      This shouldn’t even be a fucking choice for anyone with half a brain. Must be nice to say this from a position of privilege where you apparently don’t have as much to lose, as long as you can live in the egocentric fantasy that your vote helped save Palestine as if Israel cares at all what the results of the US election are.

      • thecrotch@sh.itjust.works
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        10 months ago

        All those justifications for genocide and your seething anger that anyone would dare to question you make you sound exactly like a trump voter. You’re not helping. It doesn’t look like you’re even trying to.

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          10 months ago

          The fuck are you even on about? This isn’t opinion, this is pragmatism.

          If a politician wanted to change the rules of math to say that 1*1=2, you’d still be out there telling dissenters that their close-minded stance makes them sound irrational, wouldn’t you?

          • thecrotch@sh.itjust.works
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            10 months ago

            “Here’s why an ongoing genocide is actually good” isn’t pragmatism. I don’t have a word for what it is, but it’s bad. Very bad. Genocidally bad. No metaphors or scenarios or math equations are going to make it good. Your argument is shit and if it’s all you’ve got then the best thing you can do for Biden is shut the fuck up and vote for him, because you’re not helping.

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              10 months ago

              So how do you suppose abstaining helps stop the genocide?

              Are you honestly lucky enough to have nothing else on the line in this election worth fighting for? Wish I was in your shoes if so.

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                10 months ago

                I don’t intend to abstain. I just think your argument is stupid and counter productive. Any argument against criticizing a politician who is doing something horrific is stupid and counter productive.

                It blows my mind that you started your rant with “I’ll take genocide” and still think you’re the good guy

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                  10 months ago

                  This entire argument is about the idea of not voting in November because somehow that will fix Palestine, not that politicians are above criticism. If you somehow missed that detail, I apologize on behalf of OP.

                  Though you also missed the earlier part where I said Biden isn’t my choice of an ideal candidate, but good to know that you’re no less competent at lifting statements outside of their context to moralize from a position of self-superiority.