I haven’t read Saito’s books, or looked too deeply into degrowth as a movement. I just read this article and thought it made some good arguments against what it claims are Saito’s understandings of Marx. I’m not sure I agree with everything, but I thought it was interesting enough to share.

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    8 months ago

    Leftists and bad slogans, name a better duo. The non primitivist degrowth people are generally pretty alright but those who take it literally are … scary. Obviously capitalist growth will have to cease, but society needs to be fundamentally reorganized which is going to take a lot of ‘growth’ in the productive forces. Because people conflate capitalist growth with technological development the arguments for degrowth sound asinine and they dismiss them out of hand.

    However I just realized the article is cowritten by Leigh Phillips. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that Jacobin would still publish something of his now but its disappointing nonetheless.

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        8 months ago

        Meh. Wrote an overrated book about central planning (thesis is that central planning is possible because Walmart and Amazon do it - of course central planning is possible but not for that reason, Phillips kinda misses the point) that spends a chapter devoted to shitting on Stalin.

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        Well take a gander at his twitter but lets say he’s a fellow traveler of LaRouche. More importantly for this though, degrowth is a bit of a bugbear for him. He complains about it constantly so I wouldn’t believe he’s being honest about his criticism of Saito.