EDIT clarifications:

  • the article is from the European Commission. This thing comes from a serious study based on hard facts and data.
  • Check this comment by @wooster@startrek.website, who reported the data.
  • Note that plugin hybrids are still better than pure ice, but they were expected to be much better.

It’s not a typo: plug-in hybrids are used, in real word cases, with ICE much more than anticipated.

In the EU, fuel consumption monitoring devices are required on new cars. They studied over 10% of all cars sold in 2021 and turns out they use way more fuel, and generate way more CO2, than anybody thought.

The gap means that CO2 emissions reduction objectives from transport will be more difficult to reach.

Thruth is, we need less cars, not “better” cars.

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    It should be noted it’s comparing the claim vs the cars actual co2 output, which for PHEV is laughably incorrect in real world use. I’m amazed a class action hasn’t been made againts these car companies. They knew what they were doing and its nothing short of environmental terrorism levels of deceit.

    That said, Plug in hybrids are still ‘better’ than petrol or diesil cars for overall emissions. The title makes out they’re worse. Which is untrue.

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      The reason a class action hasn’t been filed, is because it is not their fault. The emissions are measured in a certain way, and that is kinda favorable for PHEV-s. Of course this is besides the point. The ORIGINAL reason hybrid cars are popular, is because they are cheap to maintain, but pretty good on fuel. The fact that they kinda cheat these newer emission tests, is more of a side effect.

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      That said, Plug in hybrids are still ‘better’ than petrol or diesil cars for overall emissions. The title makes out they’re worse. Which is untrue.

      A title is a title. I added a clarification at the top post. I have mo intention to deceive anyone

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      Wouldn’t plug in hybrids largely depend on use? If I only use gas with it twice a year, it’s got to be better than if I’m commuting long enough to need the gas motor five times a week, right?

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        A key issue with many PHEVs is that the “P” is in name only. Their batteries are generally too weak to work without the ICE engine at least some of the time (eg high speed up a hill or when partially discharged). In my view this is quite deceptive, as many people would think (and many PHEVs allow) that you could effectively use the PHEV as a “pure” EV for the majority use case.

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          @dillekant @Anamnesis There is also too many PHEV’s that are given to people as work vehicles when they have no option to plug in. Ideal, the right user and real world can all be very different scenarios.

          Don’t take any numbers at face value, actually understand what is being measured.