We’ve known for years that the owner is a lying, creepy, out of touch dipshit and that it’s a very flawed car and the company will cut costs to save money on safety items, every time.
Electric vehicles with drive assist are awesome and are the future, but there are alternatives, especially if you have money, which a lot of Tesla customers do. And they’re not particularly well built; how many of these do you think will be on the road 20 years from now? And now we’ve seen how Elaine runs their companies, why the hell would anybody put their trust in their products?
If you’ve bought a Tesla in the last five or so years, you’re a damn goober in my eyes. That’s my hot take, prepared for being called poor and other sodium, tear filled comments from fools whose opinions don’t matter. You are the hardcore, foaming at the mouth Segway fan from the 2000s, have at me lol.
Update: The teary eyed, sweaty fingered responses to this are predictably hilarious. I’ve been called a guy that eats 4 pizzas a week in another old thread because of this, a cunt, a tool, a douche, a couple people spent their energy to tell me they don’t understand me spending my energy posting this, some people are telling me something about Tesla or Elaine living in my head rent free. All genuinely pathetic responses, so GG lol. Cheers.
Most people don’t (and shouldn’t) run their car to empty causing the average consumer to fill up after ~300 miles, when they get to roughly 1/4 their tank.
This has been proven time and time again. If you consistently got the true 400 miles a tank out of your car, you’d damage it.
(Also average fuel efficiency is 25mpg, average fuel tank size is 12-16 gallons. Average that 12-16 to 14 gallons. 25x14=350 miles per tank)
But I love the absolute assured confidence in your incorrect reply here.
The same applies to EVs, you don’t get nearly that 250-300 mile range without degrading your battery at a faster rate than your gas car’s fuel pump.
Your fuel efficiency number is also bad. It probably factors in a lot of the large pickups that get 12-16 mpg. All the SUVs and sedans I’ve owned achieved 400-450 miles per tank. Hell, my 98 camry could do 500 if you kept AC usage to a minimum.
Your level of confidence is immeasurable, considering your bad statistics, and 1 sided thinking of the negatives.
My numbers came from WLTP which considers EV range “a functional range for which you can safely drive without harm to the systems.” So it already took into account that issue.
Your anecdotal evidence does not a statistic make. The average fuel efficiency for all cars in the road in America is 25 mpg. This is not counting lorries or other commercial vehicles. The average tank size is 12-16 gallons. You. Are. Wrong.
But still love the assured confidence.
It seems you don’t have any real world experience with EVs as WLTP is wildly optimistic. EPA is bad enough, but WLTP isn’t even remotely close unless you’re going a constant 35 mph with no stops.
Owned both a Model S and a Taycan. Both have exceeded WLTP in my experience. So you’d be wrong on that assumption.
Edit: and most reviewers agree that both cars exceed their tested ranges. Not seen one say otherwise
Oh look, anecdotal evidence. I guess I’ll disregard your post. You. Are. Wrong.
Btw, pickups are not lorries. Those are just called trucks. Those large vehicles severally skew averages in the US. Knowing where your statistics come from will really make you look a lot less stupid on the internet.
My statistics come from WLTP. You might want to follow your own advice. Also: pickups and other trucks only account for 12% of cars on road in America. So again, wrong. Confidently wrong, but still wrong.
Also it’s not anecdotal if I have a plurality of reviewers agreeing with me. The plural of anecdote is in fact data.
Really? From my vantage point, the majority of users here disagree with you. I guess that’s data stating you’re wrong.
Users here who have not sourced shit and mentioned objectively false information.
Moment you put forth false info, I ignore your opinion as invalid. So frankly, idgaf what the very clearly incorrect people in this thread think. Their opinion is based in falsehoods.
How would you be damaging your car by using most of the fuel in the tank?
Your engine doesn’t like to run dry and when you let your car run to E you do run it drier than it typically operates. This can overheat parts. It’s not an issue if this is an occasional thing but overtime you can and will damage the vehicle.
I can find sources that say that repeatedly letting your fuel tank go completely empty can be a problem over time, but none that say that running near empty can be an issue.
They’re still disregarding the fact that the exact same problem occurs in EVs, but worse.
One might say that they’re confidently incorrect.
The sort of damage you’re talking about is being 2 to 3 times as likely (so still a low chance) to have your fuel pump break after 5 to 10 years.
It’s not zero, but it’s not massive either.
Yet, I am still correct and you are still not. But no. I’m also talking about damage to the cat, the fuel pump, your actual engine block… you should never let your car suck empty. You can and will damage it. It’s about as bad as driving a diesel on petrol.
You seem to have me confused with another user. You say I’m still not correct, but that was my first comment.
Like, I said the risks you’re talking about are very small and only for using that absolute last bit of gas. You can go beyond 1/4 of a tank remaining and not encounter those risks. And I’m not sure what your point is since it’s not like most people drive their EVs to less than 5-10% SOC remaining. They also don’t DCFC to 100% so they end up with 70% of their usable range for all except the first leg.
There’s also the fact that if an ICE has 400 miles of range, it has 350 miles of range at 80 MPH in 10 F weather. An EV with 400 miles of EPA rated range on the other hand will have more like 150 miles of usable range in those conditions.