I am fine with the place settling for a bit. It would suck if this place was as big as other sites are overnight. I want to watch this place grow over time
Natural, healthy, positive growth! Not growth for growths sake
Yes! Enough of the “I’m doing my part meme” that isn’t even real content.
It is!
Would you like to know more?
I’m doing my part
And I’m doing my part.
It’s not but it drives the discussion. I feel that at this point, some participation is better than no participation at all
I disagree completely, but thanks for your take.
You’re welcome
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This man needs more upvotes!
Natural, healthy, positive upvotes! No upvotes for upvotes sake
Exactly. No one likes an steroids user. Natural growth is always the way!
Yeah, my main problem so far has been finding communities actually worth following/joining/contributing to.
If suddenly tons of average people join, they won’t really find communities, they’ll deem that their analysis of Lemmy, and leave with tiny chances of a second chance. It’ll just boom and bust in it’s current state. Most people aren’t interested in starting or growing a small community.
Meanwhile, if we stay at this size for a while, communities may form/grow, and as people trickle in, they’ll grow bit by bit.
This looks great thank you, going to have a deep dive.
Excellent!
Yea and a lot of that may be bot accounts that are getting banned/being shut off.
Yes. I do not want another Reddit.
never go full reddit
I, for one, am not going anywhere. ✊🏻
I’m interested in seeing how well these great open source apps for Lemmy scale as the user base and post/comment data grows.
The apps are already amazing and will not suffer issues of scale themselves because they run on users’ devices. The scaling issues will be in Lemmy server code and ActivityPub in general.
ActivityPub doesn’t seem very scalable IMHO. It works well if all instances are about the same size and communities are well-distributed. Right now a few servers like lemmy.world, sh.itjust.works, and lemmy.ml are much larger than others. They host most of the popular communities as well. This creates an imbalance which ActivityPub doesn’t handle well.
I think Lemmy instances should be topic based. But that’d be confusing for people coming from centralized social media who are only trying to find a reliable starting place. So I really hope we reach a point of maturity and mainstream-ness of Fediverse that people feel comfortable with smaller theme-based instances.
My main gripe with ActivityPub is that the infrastructure basically replicates 1-to-1 across subscribed instances. It means that as lemmy grows, servers will require more and more storage to keep up. For now, it’s fine since we’re under a few TB of content on the platform.
If lemmy were to be as popular as reddit, we’d reach the dozens if not hundreds of TB of storage required. Not everyone has the money to build such a homelab or rent data center servers of that caliber.
ActivityPub in it’s current state is nothing but replicated centralization, not a full decentralized protocol. We’d probably need a different database system that handles cross region clustering and sharing to scale it up.
If you don’t mirror everything locally, you can lose data when other instances go down. Decentralization just has high data costs, take a look at git or bitcoin. I just hope ActivityPup learned something from Diaspora, where small instances couldn’t handle the amount traffic comming from big instances.
My point was that there is no need to replicate everything everywhere. If the data is replicated a cross 5 instances per region for instance, it’s enough for replication needs. If you self host lemmy and subscribes to large communities on your instance, you can quickly overload your server. We need activity pub to be more lightweight if we want smaller instances to thrive.
As long as we have the population to stabilize the big communities and slowly fill out the niche ones as reddit drives ever downward. I think we will be ok.
I hope that the lemmy devs take this time to look at how they’re distributing users. We need a better browser for people to find what instances to join. The next Reddit exodus is going to be massive and .ml and .world aren’t ready for it.
The brain-drain has already happened on reddit and it’s only a matter of time before the good content and 3rd party development explodes here on Lemmy.
Commenting so I have commented in July.
Nice July comment. Here’s my July comment.
First post please ignore
Test post, please ignore.
Roger that
July comments incoming
July
july
July
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July
You can call me your July reply guy
I am also july
Ohai
Christmas in July, happy Christmas.
I see what you did there
me too
Another July comment
Same
Roger, dude.
Same here
Hi
Me too, thanks.
same, may as well make my first comment here
July?
No, I think he’s telling the truth
Is that how it works? I can’t remember if I’ve commented lately.
Buy the dip!!!
I’m a woman and child
Skill issue
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I am also a woman and a child.
Goo goo ga ga this stroller isn’t going to push itself
I’m just a woman in love
I’m Brian and so’s my wife
My favorite kind
Sorry I was busy this weekend.
You are not allowed to be busy, you need to shit post nonstop.
So Long And Thanks For All The Fish 🐟
Yall got fish? All I got was beans.
And dysentery.
BBBBEEEEAAAANNNNSSSSSWENEEDMOREBEEAANNSS
Beans? I only got old memes
🐬 SO SAD THAT IT HAS COME TO THIS 🐬
🐬 WE TRIED TO WARN YOU ALL BUT OH DEAR 🐬
That is probably my fault, I’m cursed and the moment I ever join any organization or community, something invariably always happens.
Meanwhile, Threads is stronger than ever. Try Threads today!
Here I was thinking we didn’t need awards and the like, but minds change
I think awards would be fun. They wouldn’t have to cost anything either
Might be fun if everyone got like 1 gold every couple weeks to give out. That way they’d still sorta be meaningful
Or for example, you get a special award for 100 comments to give away.
I love this idea, this would drive up engagement from power users!
It would also drive up meaningless and irrelevant comments.
This
Concur. I would tie “awards awardable” to participation. 1 award per 10 posts or 100 comments. Given the federated nature of Lemmy it would probably have to be tabulated per instance, but that’s okay since that would tie awards awardable to the communities in which one most often participates.
I’m totally down for free awards.
my engineer brain immediately went to how crazy the desync would be lmao (upvotes, comments, and subscriber count already out of sync sometimes)
I would tie “awards awardable” to participation. 1 award per 10 posts or 100 comments. Given the federated nature of Lemmy it would probably have to be tabulated per instance, but that’s okay since that would tie awards awardable to the communities in which one most often participates.
lol
Ah well…
Se you guys on…
on…
uhh, Lemmy?
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Still no real idea what “instances” are and no idea if I am missing out on entire subs because I am on .world. No clue. Do people on .world only see this?
‘Communities’ are akin to subreddits. ‘Instances’ are akin to reddit allowing other people to spin up their own version of reddit with their own ruleset, but still under the reddit umbrella; with other reddit-users being able to access other reddits. But, those ‘other reddits’ might decide hey we don’t like clowns so we are blocking clown reddit; clown reddit can no longer access the other reddits, without directly registering on them.
If you want to expand your lemmy experience, when you fire up lemmy.world, there is a setting at the top which defaults to subscribed (iirc), change this to ‘All’ and it will show posts from all other instances that aren’t defederated.
Thanks probably the best explanation I’ve ever gotten. Thanks for that.
No problemo
Also, you can see what instances lemmy.world blocks/federates by going to lemmy.world/instances . You can check if an instance blocks/federates lemmy.world by going to thatinstance.ml/instances
There are a few instances that try to avoid defederating except as a last resort. vlemmy.net was one but that went offline unceremoniously last week.
I use lemmy.world and wefwef on mobile, none of these problems
Android or Apple?
iOS
I use wefwef which is now voyager never had this issue.
Never actually chosen a language.
Many of the subs are empty because they were either created by squatters wanting to be uber mods of many subs or by the current reddit mods in case they wish to migrate in the future.
Website I can’t speak to as I use the app which I’ve had no issues with and is updated daily.
I’m also kinda lost on instance but I’m in lemmy.world and I seem to have all the important subs/whatever I want.
The language thing is annoying as hell on mobile. Connect doesn’t allow me to select a language - or at least I can’t find the button. I’d say approx 20% of posts get denied because “wrong language”. I guess it’s autodetecting and fails at that?
Admittedly the language thing is the most confusing thing for new users. Just leave it at undetermined.
But there is no place to change it. And when you are trying to post, you’re not sure what to do. If you cancel, you lose what you wrote (obviously can save to clipboard), but even then in the app, I haven’t seen a place to change the language even if I wanted to. It’s one of those quirks that can turn lots of people off and want to go back to Reddit.
It’s in your settings. If you’re using an app that may be the problem. For sure, the first day or two I was confused by it. I have mine set to undetermined & English. The list is kind of odd how to select them. It’s been set it and forget it. Definitely a barrier to entry because it doesn’t really have an obvious purpose when onboarding.
R.I.P Lemmy, probably my fault 😢
Well, I deleted my account, so there is no going back to reddit. Also discussions here seem better for me for some reason.
Less people = less assholes
Less assholes = less shit.
less shit = need fiber
need fiber = something no vegan has ever said
Proportionally, there’s still as many.
*fewer
Chill man. Even my activity is dropping now, but that’s just me thinking that Lemmy will be self-sufficient while I read my books. It’s true that Lemmy is not as addicting as reddit, but that’s for the best. I’ve actually gotten into new hobbies whose communities I might eventually join here.
Nooo my investments!!!
Don’t worry, I’m here to stay _
Oh great, you’re here.
You know this Turtle?
Everyone knows the turtle, and now you do too.
Can I know the turtle too?
Bruhhh I thought you were someone else. Welcome aboard
