• Masterblaster420@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    everyone here should look at the Venus Project. We keep struggling to understand how automation makes sense in a capitalist society. SPOILER: it doesn’t. The entire system has to be re-imagined or we perish and the owners flourish (without us).

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      2 months ago

      Yeah the owners are always going to get the labor as cheap as possible. There is no way you’ll get profits from a. Company that literally doesn’t employ you.

      In the right hand pic the person doesn’t work for the company. Why does the pic imply they do?

      If a company is fully automated and has no workers do they pay everyone? Lol

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        “If a company is fully automated and has no workers do they pay everyone? Lol”

        you lol but entertain this thought experiment - it’s a little stretch of the imagination but totally feasible in the right conditions:

        a benevolent philanthropist buys an autonomous car and gives the car ownership of itself. the car’s directive is to operate at cost and provide transportation to humans. the car operates on a model not unlike uber but without profit concerns. it arranges its own maintenance and budgets for replacments parts, etc. how much cheaper would that be than paying for a cab or uber?

        of course none of that is feasible because the law doesn’t allow for a car to own itself and there’s still some R&D before it could operate on the level i’m talking about but still… if profit was removed and everything operated on cost alone, how much cheaper and accessible would things become?