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    I’m not denying that the media is controled by horrible powerful people, but to claim this was a lynching appears to be bullshit. I’m gonna ban this community. I like the agenda. But spreading disinformation makes you just as bas as msm.

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      Yeah it only takes a minute of reading to see this is ragebait

      Fuck OP, fuck disinformation

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      Unsurprisingly, the article is way more reasonable than the Facebook propaganda.

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      Dudley was set to start a new internship today at the San Francisco AIDS Foundation, Aguilar said, and had been looking forward to an upcoming wedding and friends visiting from out of town next week.

      “He was so excited about being a part of that,” Aguilar said. “I know this man … there was no indication of this.”

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      First, this is just a callous thing to say and undermines a very real fear for people all over. Perceived stereotypes should play no role in how likely a crime may have been.

      Second, San Francisco, for all the reputation it has as being progressive and left leaning, may be those things on average, but individually has an extremely wide range of polarized views. Especially if you consider neighboring towns, the progressive aspects of the Bay quickly fall off into the very libertarian Silicon Valley and further into the extreme right as you reach central California. It’s a dense and politically diverse place.

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    The news is owned by billionaires.

    And, as long as we keep voting for the two ruling parties, it’s going to stay that way.

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        You can vote, but at this point, it’s objectively clear that (at least at the federal level) your vote is meaningless.

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          You can vote, but at this point, it’s objectively clear that (at least at the federal level) your vote is meaningless

          Meaningless how? By what standard? That you didn’t get everything you wanted and some people got things they wanted that you object to? That the system itself will not substantially change in your lifetime?

          The truth is you vote very much does matter at the federal level. It’s literally the difference between life and death for women, trangender people, brown people… there is so much that a Democratic administration prevents and promotes that is meaningful to many in substantive… even existential ways, ever day.

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            It’s literally the difference between life and death for women, trangender people, brown people…

            Your Democratic administration betrayed you.

            Biden, in his first SOTU, mocked you by saying: “Don’t defund the police. Fund them.” That’s not what he promised to marginalized communities. But, he’s always been an authoritarian. Remember the 94 crime bill?

            Women, they betrayed by learning about Roe repeal and doing nothing to stop it other than fundraising. They made $80 million, by the way.) Idaho got away with literally criminalizing abortion, which means 2/3 of the states will follow suit in the next year.

            As for transgendered people, the Federal Government has done so little to protect them they’re fleeing red states. I saw it myself when a member of my roller derby league left Missouri for Oregon.

            So… yeah, I disagree. No matter who we elect at the Federal level, we get fascism.

            Your vote still matters some at the local level, depending on where you live, but in a few years it won’t, because Donald Trump is probably going to be reelected, and that will validate everything he’s ever done.

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              Your Democratic administration betrayed you.

              This is such nonsense. Did I get everything I wanted out of any administration? No. Because surprise surprise, I’m not the only person in the country with a vote and with priorities. Your answer to not getting things you want to is to not vote at all so you will get EVEN LESS?

              learning about Roe repeal and doing nothing to stop it

              You are dramatically ill-informed and your logic is flawed. We lost Roe V. Wade because we lost the Supreme Court. So you want another Trump administration to solidify the conservative majority to make sure it gets worse? This administration has done a lot to protect reproductive rights. Do I want more? Of course, but I’m not going to… I’ve been waiting all day to say this… throw the baby out with the bath water because the Dems couldn’t do everything. You want to punish them by helping Republicans win the white house? That makes sense to you?

              The Dems did a great deal to try to stem the tide here, despite not having a majority in the house. Here’s just one of many articles discussing that: https://19thnews.org/2023/06/democrats-house-senate-abortion-dobbs/

              As for transgendered people, the Federal Government

              The federal government doesn’t have jurisdiction over state law. All they can do, which it turns out is quite a bit is use federal agencies and regulations to put in place what protections they can. And this administration has done more than any other, for which I am personally grateful.

              No matter who we elect at the Federal level, we get fascism.

              This is just an incredibly immature statement to make. We do not have fascism. But there’s a decent chance we will under Trump.

              but in a few years it won’t, because Donald Trump is probably going to be reelected

              Right, so let’s bitch and moan about how the Dems aren’t doing a good enough job so we can make sure Trump DOES get elected.

              Honestly.

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      It takes money to fight money the legal way. Unless you can somehow crowdsource enough from a class that’s mostly living paycheck to paycheck the only real alternative to meaningful change is through violence.

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    Usually if it was a lynching there would be signs of struggle/other physical trauma. I don’t know all of the facts but am open to either possibility, but San Francisco seems like an unlikely place to cover it up. Sometimes suicidal thoughts come on very quickly. It has happened to me. Thankfully that was a very long time ago.

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      Yeah, hanging one’s self is a very common suicide method. This probably requires more evidence than just “it could have happened, therefore it did happen”

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        I’m in the avenues and our school community is ocean beach. It’s a weird conservative fake libertarian vibe lately.

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      The article states the medical examiner declined to confirm the cause of death actually, so whether or not there were signs of struggle is still up in the air. Why might the examiner have declined to confirm? Is that a common?

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        They usually don’t confirm anything until they’ve completed their examination/investigation. That can take way longer than people think. There was a woman here who committed suicide and people were speculating that her ex actually killed her so the case was getting a ton of attention, and it took months for the coroner’s office to release their final results. Another woman definitely was murdered by her husband a couple years ago. Her remains were found last September and the results were just announced a couple weeks ago. It’s totally normal that they wouldn’t say anything in this case yet.

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    Riiiiight. Because people lynching someone leave a suicide note on graffiti on a bench with their name. Because angry mobs stop to figure out the person’s name and leave a note. Because they think about consequences