Personally, I believe that A CAB. Yes, all cops are bastards, no exceptions. Yet I have met people who think that cops in socialist countries aren’t bastards.

My reasoning is that it is a position of power over your fellow citizens/countrymen/people and only bastards would be attracted to such positions. While a person may go in with “good intentions”, invariably they will be at some point in their career be expected to do something “not good”: cover up for a colleague, arrest someone for law they don’t agree with, beat somebody up, and so on. If they do it and remain a cop, well they are a bastard, no matter how many old ladies they help cross the street or whatever.

Let’s also not pretend that a full communist utopia where every single law/regulation/rule is fair is possible in our lifetimes (or at all likely), there’ll always be people who will want to abuse their power and take control, cops are an easily bought section of society that makes it possible for them. Historically, cops have always sided with the aristocracy/bourgeoisie/land-owners/those with money.

Your thoughts?

  • ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml
    10·
    5 months ago

    Who said anything about “homelessness”? What if you’re drunk/tired and just need a place to rest your head for a few hours? Why do you think that anyone sleeping on the street is “homeless”?

    Because rough sleeping is usually tied to homelessness.

    In a socialist society if you’re taking a nap somewhere, the police will give you a ride home. Capitalist societies literally criminalize this.

    You said “cops don’t protect private property in socialist states” but then you say “I hope they’d protect private property in a socialist state”, so which is it?

    Cops dont act on behalfs of landlords, they act on behalf of the people; of course if someone is invading your home, they should still respond; dont be inane.

    • multitotal@lemmygrad.mlOP
      26·
      5 months ago

      In a socialist society if you’re taking a nap somewhere, the police will give you a ride home.

      And that’s how it should be. The police don’t need country-wide powers, 24/7 access to a criminal database or weapons to do this.

      of course if someone is invading your home, they should still respond

      Someone who takes a nap in your yard isn’t “invading your home”.

      • ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml
        7·
        5 months ago

        And that’s how it should be. The police don’t need country-wide powers, 24/7 access to a criminal database or weapons to do this.

        Its already how it works in China, should we be killing every cop there?

        Someone who takes a nap in your yard isn’t “invading your home”.

        Il let my family know your thoughts on this matter next time a stranger decides to drunkly stumble into my garden at 2am, they arent invading our house, they are just friends we havent met yet :)

        • multitotal@lemmygrad.mlOP
          26·
          5 months ago

          should we be killing every cop there?

          Who said anything about killing?

          next time a stranger decides to drunkly stumble into my garden at 2am, they arent invading our house,

          You said “garden”, but then imply they are invading your “house”. What if your garden was 10 acres, would you still call the cops on them?

          they are just friends we havent met yet :)

          If you don’t have a problem with cops, they serve your interests.

          • ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml
            8·
            5 months ago

            Who said anything about killing?

            It comes with ‘ACAB’, destroy all cops is a core princable; if not killing, abolishing all.

            You said “garden”, but then imply they are invading your “house”. What if your garden was 10 acres, would you still call the cops on them?

            If they where shitting in my garden and sleeping in it at 2am, id call the police if I knew they wouldnt hurt them, which in a socialist society id have more confidence they wont, as they arent going to put them in prison, they are taking them home; they wont have a gun, so they wont shoot them. This isnt guarenteed in liberal society, so id likely take it into my own hands and risk whatever violence comes my way.

            If you don’t have a problem with cops, they serve your interests.

            My interests are marxism-leninism, if the police agree with that then no, id have little issues with them.

              • ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml
                9·
                5 months ago

                Yes, because to you Marxism-Leninism is just another hobby, like video games, or stamp collecting.

                I was acting in good faith up till now but if we’re degenerating this conversation to personal insults, im out. Have a good one!

                • multitotal@lemmygrad.mlOP
                  25·
                  5 months ago

                  I was acting in good faith up till now

                  I confused you with Blursty, they said “You’re reeking off anarchist “thought”.” and you jumped into the same thread, so I thought it was you who had said that to me. I apologise.

                  It comes with ‘ACAB’, destroy all cops is a core princable; if not killing, abolishing all.

                  Would you agree to a year of re-educational labour for cops instead?

                  id call the police if I knew they wouldnt hurt them, which in a socialist society id have more confidence they wont, as they arent going to put them in prison, they are taking them home;

                  But are we talking about a hypothetical socialist society or AES? Because not all AES countries are the same, and AES countries have mixed levels of class consciousness.