• paddirn@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    The scariest thing about this sort of descent into madness through joining a cult, is that I wonder what keeps this from happening to me? Would I recognize the signs in myself and just know, “Whoa there, maybe this isn’t such a hot idea, this is obviously crazy talk.” Is it a slow decline where you sort of make small concessions and give up on reality bit by bit, until you turn around one day and you’ve just lost touch completely (or in your mind everyone else is taking crazy pills)?

    I feel like we’ve been watching the GOP start to slip away from at least “acceptable” political discourse for awhile now, they’ve just been slowly but surely pushing the bounds of insanity little by little each year, until we’ve ended up with whatever the fuck the GOP is now, like this weird parody of its former self. Not that the Democrats are that much better, but for the most part they’re still active participants in trying to maintain a shared reality.

    There’s obviously people on the fringe on either wing of the mainstream American political spectrum, but the lunatics have basically taken over the asylum in the GOP and their current “fringe” is just sensible, independent conservatives who I’m sure must exist somewhere, people relatively untouched by Trump’s cult of personality. Decades of FoxNews though I’m sure have whittled that number down to near-extinction.

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      Not that the Democrats are that much better, but for the most part they’re still active participants in trying to maintain a shared reality.

      I would say that alone makes them much better. Stop with this “both sides” bullshit, that ship has sailed.

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        “One side wants a fascist autocratic regime and the other wants universal healthcare but has some moderate members backed by corporations. Both sides, am I right?”

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        In my mind, the Democrats don’t go far enough to the Left (just look at the recent Railworker’s strike), granted they are head and shoulders above anything the Republicans are doing and about the only choice we have at the polls anymore, but pretending like they’re perfect is just as bad as pretending like there’s no difference between Democrats and Republicans (“both sides”).

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          But there’s a huge range between “both sides are almost the same” and “democrats are perfect”

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      go tell the Trans community that the republicans and democrats are the same, the only people who can say shit like this are those with an ungodly level of privilege

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        If the democrats actually use any of their power to protect trans people federally from the ongoing attack in red states causing an internal refugee crisis then sure.

        They’re doing an ok job of protecting trans people in blue states though sure, but they are sitting on their laurels when it comes to trans people outside of the states they control and allowing a “states rights” mindset to trans discrimination to normalise.

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        Case in point the democrats are actively working to pass bills that they know their opposition is going to use against lgbt people.

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        Ah yes, the Middle Easterners getting bombed clearly have so much privilege over transgenders

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          first, nice whataboutism, secondly, yes they do, they can live their lives openly, sure there is risk of becoming collateral damage, but a trans person in the USA will get beaten and attacked, and if they are really unlucky, like the middle easterner, you seem to care about so much, will die for it, just they have to deal with all the other shit beforehand.

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      I wonder what keeps this from happening to me?

      Given that you’re already both-sidesing in a thread about a dude saying Antifa was buddies with Hitler, you may already be in a cult. I see your fellow members in most Fediverse politics threads; really it’s just a hop, skip, and jump to shaving your heads and handing out coloring books and flowers at the airport

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      No one sees the bad side of the Democrats because the crazy on the GOP side drowns it out.

      I’m surprised you used the word Democrat in any sort of negative way and still have any upvotes. We don’t do that around here.

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        It’s because there’s something cult-like about many Democrats as much as many Republicans. And yes, I do mean as much as as in equal amounts.

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        One of my most downvoted Lemmy comments was me saying I would never vote for the Dems again because the Dems aren’t actually leftist