hii,

I am learning English for around 5 years and I still can’t comprehend the meaning of “would” and “count” in some context. are they just past form of “will” and “can”?

“would you like coffee” means a person is asking if you liked coffee in past? “I would do it” means I did it in past?

I really don’t understand since my language doesn’t have anything like those words.

Edit: Thank you for answering my naive question :)

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    Will do: it is certain he do it in future.

    Would do: it is certain he decide to do now or in future it if he has ability to do and/or knows about it and/or nothing else stop him.

    Would have done: it is certain he decide to do in past if he had ability to do and/or knew about it and/or nothing else stop him.

    Can do: he have ability to do now or in future.

    Could do: he have ability to do now or in future if he decide to do and/or no external condition that stops it being done.

    Could have done: he had the ability, he didn’t do in past (maybe there are reasons).

    would = intent to do if there is ability.
    could = ability to do if there is intent.

    • intent: the desire to do and/or the knowledge that it needs to be done and/or no external condition that stops it being done.

    “would you like coffee” = If I give to you ability to drink coffee right now, what is your answer, Yes or No?

    “I would do it” = If nothing stops me and I have the ability to do, then I do it. This is said with knowledge that some condition must be met before you can do it:
    “I would drink that coffee if you give it to me.”
    It is letting the listener know that you intend to do action, but it first requires some other thing to happen which gives you ability.

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      5 months ago

      This is a great write up BUT there are other mistakes you should fix since you’re helping someone learn. “He have” instead of “he has,” etc.

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        WTF NO! You suggested that bullshit? I wondered why everything was so goddamn clunky.

        “HE HAS”, NOT “HE HAVE”. And should be the ability.

        The way it’s written now sounds EXACTLY like someone who’s first language ISNT English trying to teach someone else English. It’s butchered terribly.

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          No, they wrote “have” which I am saying is one of the issues with their comment

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            “He have” instead of “he has,” etc.

            Then you meant to write “‘He has’ instead of ‘he have’”. You wrote it backwards. Thanks for the downvote for YOUR mistake.

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              They didn’t write a mistake. They’re correcting the original comment and their correction is worded correctly.

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                The corrector was ambiguous about which version was the original and which version was the correction, as there are some [assumed words] that were left out and could be either “you said” or “it should be.” My initial reaction was the same as the heavily downvoted person above, because my brain filled in “it should be” as the assumed words, where most people seemingly filled in “you said.”

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              I probably should have worded it differently to be more clear but I was pointing out the mistakes so my grammar was correct.

              But speaking of mistakes, it looks like you just made your second one by implying I downvoted you!

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          I’m getting quite the laugh at someone getting this angry over their own lack of reading comprehension.

          I originally parsed their comment the same way you did, but I would have either asked for clarification or politely corrected them. Please be more respectful of others, there’s really no need to be so agressive.