Kbin/Mbin (and possibly others?) definitely have the edge here since those platforms make votes public (only admins can see them on Lemmy). So, if you want to confirm what I’m saying here, go view some of these posts from Kbin/Mbin.

Every time one of the “usual suspects” says stuff like this in the comments, there will later be posts detailing how Biden is doing (or at least earnestly trying to do) exactly the things they’re saying he needs to be doing (oR ElSe i WiLl noT voTE anD NEithER ShoULD yoU!!!11!!). 100% of the time, those posts are downvoted by these same “usual suspect” accounts.

What gives? They have very strong opinions about how he should run his administration, so you’d think they’d appreciate him doing what they’ve been so helpfully suggesting. Unless…it was never about the issues at all.

That thin veneer of concern they’re hiding behind is not as thick as they think it is and is quite easy to see through. Now you know where to look.

Edit: Please don’t name and shame any specific users. That may violate the community or LW rules. We all know who most of the “usual suspects” are.

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    Socialism isn’t in the cards, not sure what you’re on about with that. This is just about throwing a hail mary to try to stop the democratic party from continuing their slide to the right so they can even begin to actually organize to maybe be a force that might oppose fascism.

    Like, that’s what I think maybe you’re confused about – Joe Biden is not helping stop the encroachment of fascism, he and politicians like him are literally just slow boiling average democrats into becoming complacent fascists themselves. That’s arguably an even worse scenario than Trump taking another term because when Trump does Trump stuff people actually get outraged, but when Biden does Trump stuff people just kind of shrugg and say “lesser evil”. That complacency and refusal to acknowledge the reality in front 9f them is what will kill our democracy.

    You still think it’s this red team blue team thing, but the majority of the blue team are unwilling to actually fight and often help the red team and play grab ass with them, so they need to be opposed in addition to the red team.

    What you’re not getting is that we’re past the stage where you can just vote blue and it will magically fix things. Voting for certain democrats is actually harmful and pushses us to the right, not away from it.

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      This is just about throwing a hail mary to try to stop the democratic party

      You could just throw a period right there and call it a day.

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      “A Trump term is better for stopping fascism, because of reasons.” Pretty delusional. He has already done a putsch and is promising to be a dictator.

      You have been living under a rock. When the Repubs win the Dems go further right, not left.

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        AIPAC donated $15 million to a racist “democrat” in New York to unseat Jamaal Bowman. The Democratic Party regularly supports people who are against the stated platform of the party. When they are in power they don’t do shit to improve life for average people because they also only care about the moneyed interests that support them. Now they’re refusing to say anything about Israel prosecuting a genocide, when they could end it in a week. If Biden cut off aid pending a full ceasefire, the IDF would be out of Gaza and the West Bank overnight. But because of reasons, Biden and the democrats won’t do shit, and innocent Palestinians will continue to be tortured and murdered using American made weapons.

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          Right? That’s why, I, a left leftie, will be doing exactly the actions desired by the party even further right than the Dems. That will show them. They won’t go further right, as they have in the past. This time will be different and they will go further left. So it won’t matter if the Repubs get the National Guard in to beat the shit out of protestors, the Dems will rise up and oppose that. But only if the Repubs win!

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      This is quite possibly only one of the biggest loads of opinion-as-fact, misinformative nonsense I think I’ve seen anyone post in a very long time here.