a) go get your own sources I just met you I’m not taking homework assignments from you
b) the primary argument is philosophical anyway; it should be illegal for a wider society to profit off of incarcerated people. They can be made to care for their own space, grow their own food, sew their own clothes, whatever, but the moment you allow them to make license plates for the rest of us, grow food for the rest of us, or clean up after the rest of us, that’s slavery, it’s wrong, and it doesn’t belong in a free country.
And no, I have no further interest in continuing to argue with someone who the most they can coherently manage to contribute is “source plz” especially when there has been a huge body of media made already on the United States Prison-Industrial complex to the point that Netflix made it into a fucking soap opera. Go look it up on duckduckgo it would’ve taken you less time and effort than making this comment.
You’re getting downvoted, but you’re absolutely right. The only valid argument against your comment is that you’re being a bit of an ass, but even that doesn’t make you wrong. If a person can’t handle a tiny bit of assholery, then they shouldn’t be on the internet.
I’ve no patience for sealioning. Also the incarcerated have been one of my all-time favorite patient populations to work with. Don’t get me wrong there’s plenty of pedos and other unsavory types, but there’s also a lot of just relatively normal decent people who just got steamrolled by the society we live in, and a lot of it does come down to housing like in the OP article. Their creativity also continually inspires me (even when they’re mostly getting up to no good, but if you can’t at least step back and appreciate the ingenuity of some of this shit you’d never cope otherwise). I had to stop working with that population even though I love them so much because I couldn’t stand watching them get abused. That broke me.
A subtle form of trolling involving “bad-faith” questions. You disingenuously frame your conversation as a sincere request to be enlightened, placing the burden of educating you entirely on the other party. If your bait is successful, the other party may engage, painstakingly laying out their logic and evidence in the false hope of helping someone learn. In fact you are attempting to harass or waste the time of the other party, and have no intention of truly entertaining their point of view. Instead, you react to each piece of information by misinterpreting it or requesting further clarification, ad nauseum. The name “sea-lioning” comes from a Wondermark comic strip.
I think the term is silly and there should be a better one for this concept, but lacking a better one I guess this will do. I’m sharing my learning so that others may learn from my experience.
also, now I fucking hate sealions, and I’m not happy about it. They used to be fucking cute.
Maybe if I asked for a source rudely, people would have taken my request legitimately instead of assuming “sealioning”. Can’t win, never mind being polite.
It’s sad that (judging from this comment thread) people seem to agree that it’s ok to make unsubstantiated claims and get pissy when you challenge them. Oh jeez I wonder why a US president can get away with spouting nonsense all the time.
a) go get your own sources I just met you I’m not taking homework assignments from you
b) the primary argument is philosophical anyway; it should be illegal for a wider society to profit off of incarcerated people. They can be made to care for their own space, grow their own food, sew their own clothes, whatever, but the moment you allow them to make license plates for the rest of us, grow food for the rest of us, or clean up after the rest of us, that’s slavery, it’s wrong, and it doesn’t belong in a free country.
And no, I have no further interest in continuing to argue with someone who the most they can coherently manage to contribute is “source plz” especially when there has been a huge body of media made already on the United States Prison-Industrial complex to the point that Netflix made it into a fucking soap opera. Go look it up on duckduckgo it would’ve taken you less time and effort than making this comment.
You’re getting downvoted, but you’re absolutely right. The only valid argument against your comment is that you’re being a bit of an ass, but even that doesn’t make you wrong. If a person can’t handle a tiny bit of assholery, then they shouldn’t be on the internet.
I’ve no patience for sealioning. Also the incarcerated have been one of my all-time favorite patient populations to work with. Don’t get me wrong there’s plenty of pedos and other unsavory types, but there’s also a lot of just relatively normal decent people who just got steamrolled by the society we live in, and a lot of it does come down to housing like in the OP article. Their creativity also continually inspires me (even when they’re mostly getting up to no good, but if you can’t at least step back and appreciate the ingenuity of some of this shit you’d never cope otherwise). I had to stop working with that population even though I love them so much because I couldn’t stand watching them get abused. That broke me.
I’m asking for a source that prisons rake on billions, you assholes. I did not know that, and thought that prisons were a net loss.
I didn’t know what sealioning is, so I looked it up on urban dictionary.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sealioning
I think the term is silly and there should be a better one for this concept, but lacking a better one I guess this will do. I’m sharing my learning so that others may learn from my experience.
also, now I fucking hate sealions, and I’m not happy about it. They used to be fucking cute.
The term comes from a webcomic, I doubt real sea lions act like this.
Now that I’ve seen the context, I really hate sealions, and I’m no longer sad about it.
fuck sealions, and I’m glad I now have a word for some shitty behavior that has annoyed me to no end for years.
It’s the responsibility of the person who makes a claim to substantiate it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=h_&q=prison+industrial+complex&ia=web
I wasn’t the one asking for a source. spikespaz@programming.dev was. But just for the record, a search engine isn’t a source. These clips would’ve been: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pz3syET3DY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjqaNQ018zU
Maybe if I asked for a source rudely, people would have taken my request legitimately instead of assuming “sealioning”. Can’t win, never mind being polite.
It’s sad that (judging from this comment thread) people seem to agree that it’s ok to make unsubstantiated claims and get pissy when you challenge them. Oh jeez I wonder why a US president can get away with spouting nonsense all the time.