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    no one’s arguing that part. the movie implies that this leads to a stupid population, which is a eugenicist claim, and factually wrong.

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      It’s only eugenics if the solution is to interfere with human reproduction. The movie is about an average person living in a stupid world. Not a call to euthanize useless eaters.

      Lets see if you can propose a different 2 minute introduction that allows the same world building but satisfies your sensibilities. I suspect you won’t be able to beat the directors choice.

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        easy. you don’t tie it to breeding at all.

        “education was systematically enshittified so most of the world is dumb now”

        done.

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            that was a great turnaround from your challenge, wasn’t it?

            “oh I’d like to see you do better”

            “yeah this would be better”

            “well do it for yourself!”

            yeah i can, but then again i could watch movies that are already not stupid instead of buying dumb ones and fixing them manually.

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              Not really a turn around. I’m demonstrating how the details of the first 2 minutes are inconsequential to the rest of the film.

              If those 2 minutes offend you, skip them, invent your own opening and enjoy a hilarious comedy that makes no further comment on the fact that richer, better educated couples statistically have less children.

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                so, what, the movie was not edited? if it didn’t have anything to do with the movie they could just remove it. of course it’s consequential; it’s the basic premise of the movie.

                again, no one is disputing the FACT itself so you don’t need to emphasize it. my whole point is that the FACT is completely irrelevant to what drives intelligence in a community.

                love that you added the richness aspect though. yeah if all these fucking poors didn’t have too many children we’d be in much better shape. don’t think about systemic issues, it’s all about individuals!

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                  it’s the basic premise of the movie.

                  Eugenics is not the basic premise of the movie. It is anti capitalist.

                  You are white knighting. If I were a corporation I would pay for people to bad mouth the movie to avoid the negative PR of:-

                  • Starbucks gives hand jobs

                  • Fuddruckers changes its name to "Buttfuckers

                  • Carl’s Jr. changes its slogan from “Don’t bother me, I’m eating” to “F**k you! I’m eating.”

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                    oh no, capitalism is devastated by the … wordplay??? that’s not even anti corporate it’s just swear words.

                    you’re right though; capitalists didn’t want this movie made… which is why it was released by a small indie studio called 20th century fox.