• AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today
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    2 months ago

    No, I’m not making assumptions. You did that by automatically assuming young people wouldn’t vote. I even said “whatever it is that you’re doing” in my last comment. Does that sound like an assumption to you?

    I don’t care who you are. Your original attitude will not cause the younger vote to want to turn out. You are working against your interests (that is, if you want the dems to win, in which case, sure, I assumed that is what you wanted).

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      2 months ago

      Statistics show that range is less likely to vote. It’s not saying anything other than that or making any assumptions as to why.

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        2 months ago

        Statistics are trending in the other direction. Why not talk about that instead of demoralizing the young voter base any further?

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          Here,

          1. 18-24 years old • Voter turnout: Approximately 51.4% • Population: 9.5%
          2. 25-34 years old • Voter turnout: Approximately 57% • Population: 13.5%
          3. 35-44 years old • Voter turnout: Approximately 63% • Population: 12.5%
          4. 45-54 years old • Voter turnout: Approximately 67% • Population: 12.8%
          5. 55-64 years old • Voter turnout: Approximately 72% • Population: 12.6%
          6. 65-74 years old • Voter turnout: Approximately 76% • Population: 10%
          7. 75 and older • Voter turnout: Approximately 70% • Population: 6.4%

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          Here are the percentages of 18-34 year olds who voted by year over the past 20 years:

          •	2004: 47.9%
          •	2006: 24.0%
          •	2008: 51.1%
          •	2010: 20.4%
          •	2012: 45.0%
          •	2014: 19.9%
          •	2016: 50.0%
          •	2018: 30.1%
          •	2020: 57.3%
          •	2022: 27.5%
          
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          Why not just supply information on the contrary, instead of carrying on with insults?

          Because you like to fight more than you like to defend the young voters.

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            Can you point me to the insult, please?

            You seem to be missing my point. I don’t care about you enough to argue with you. You aren’t going to get young people on your side by telling them that they’re the problem. Do you not want to improve these stats you keep bringing up? Apparently not, but if you did actually care about that, you’d have more empathy and understanding rather than just saying that young people aren’t going to vote.

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                Then you ignorantly don’t have empathy for those that have been systematically disenfranchised by strict GOP-led voter laws, gerrymandering, and oppression. You could get angry about people voting for the GOP. You could get angry about idiots parting ways with their money to donate to super pacs. You could get angry about so many other things, but here you are, getting angry because someone online told you to have some empathy for another age group that was disenfranchised.

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                  … I’m not angry at all? No vote, no voice. Sad you aren’t being heard? VOTE! Frankly, I can’t think of a single reason not to vote.

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                    Huh, you sure sounded angry when you double commented and said I insulted you.

                    I think that might be part of the problem, you can’t see the barriers that young people and POC in red states encounter. But just because YOU haven’t experienced grappling with disenfranchisement, doesn’t mean it isn’t there for others. You don’t seem to understand that many young people can’t vote because of that.

                    Once again, before you try to move the goal posts once more, the point is that telling disenfranchised people who are not able will not get them on your side and motivate them to get past the cards they have been given. You are being counterproductive to your desire of wanting people to vote when you do that.