Here’s the thing. Anyone who thinks voting matters is also a civility fetishizing liberal who abhors violence to the 100000th power. Here in the real world, actual change that has benefited working people has onlyever come through either explicit violence wrought on their behalf, or by the threat of it. People didn’t get the 8 hour workday because they VOTED for it, they got it because enough pissed off, armed workers scared enough of the owning class that they felt compelled to pass it. 1850-1940s America was nearly a hundred fucking years of low-scale civil warfare and tbh if American workers didn’t get so fat off post-war prosperity it’d still be going. But they did and because this shit isn’t taught in our schools our country is filled with ignorant chuds who want to take us back to the stone ages and ignorant shit-libs who would gladly let them if the alternative meant violence.
So if you’re not going to vote then you’re going to go do violence? How much actual change have you produced from not voting? You see much benefit to working people from complaining online?
Those are the only two things in the world huh? Voting and violence? Oh and complaining online?
Have you thought about worker organization, work stoppages, boycotts, protests, economic shutdowns and other methods of applying pressure? Education programs, feeding the poor and training camps? Forming disciplined and militant groups to apply pressure?
Is all violence the same? Is a mass shooter killing random people the same as the working class beginning to defend itself against the ruling class? Even civility liberals admits self defense is fine but you want us to all be suffocated out by the capitalists quietly
Here’s the thing. Anyone who thinks voting matters is also a civility fetishizing liberal who abhors violence to the 100000th power. Here in the real world, actual change that has benefited working people has only ever come through either explicit violence wrought on their behalf, or by the threat of it. People didn’t get the 8 hour workday because they VOTED for it, they got it because enough pissed off, armed workers scared enough of the owning class that they felt compelled to pass it. 1850-1940s America was nearly a hundred fucking years of low-scale civil warfare and tbh if American workers didn’t get so fat off post-war prosperity it’d still be going. But they did and because this shit isn’t taught in our schools our country is filled with ignorant chuds who want to take us back to the stone ages and ignorant shit-libs who would gladly let them if the alternative meant violence.
So if you’re not going to vote then you’re going to go do violence? How much actual change have you produced from not voting? You see much benefit to working people from complaining online?
Those are the only two things in the world huh? Voting and violence? Oh and complaining online?
Have you thought about worker organization, work stoppages, boycotts, protests, economic shutdowns and other methods of applying pressure? Education programs, feeding the poor and training camps? Forming disciplined and militant groups to apply pressure?
Is all violence the same? Is a mass shooter killing random people the same as the working class beginning to defend itself against the ruling class? Even civility liberals admits self defense is fine but you want us to all be suffocated out by the capitalists quietly
Yes, they want us to
, shut the fuck up, and work our bones down to dust so they can have brunch in peace.
About as much benefit as voting and giving legitimacy to our sham of a democracy
You are willfully ignoring the people giving you very good answers. People like you are the most insufferable people on the planet.