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Cake day: October 29th, 2021

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  • widespread censorship is a slippery slope

    I wouldn’t call blocking gore, nazis, and pedos “widespread”. For anyone who hasn’t heard the nazi bar story (source @IamRageSparkle on Twitter):

    I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after-work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you. So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, “no. get out.”

    And the dude next to me says, “hey i’m not doing anything, i’m a paying customer.” and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, “out. now.” and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed

    Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, “you didn’t see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them.”

    And i was like, ohok and he continues.

    "you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it’s always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don’t want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too.

    And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it’s too late because they’re entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.

    And i was like, ‘oh damn.’ and he said “yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people.”

    And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven’t forgotten that at all.







  • Yeah, the fact that the user auth and permission models were intentionally left out of the W3C spec initially really ended up locking ActivityPub into particular dialects and patterns that are now proving problematic for scaling.

    I’m not sure it’s 100% too late for a redesign, though. The committee is still active and the Fediverse could still theoretically grow by an order of magnitude or two. Does that seem likely right this minute? No, but sometimes that kind of vision is what an ecosystem needs.










  • didn’t mean to imply it should be enforced

    Oh then yeah 100%

    huhhhhhhh? 😵‍💫 Elaborate plz

    Not sure if you were confused about one of those statements or both of them, so sorry if I’m explaining something you already understood.

    I am a cis person and when I am online I list my pronouns as they/them for privacy reasons, like you’ve stated. It just makes me uncomfortable to be referred to as “she” or “he” online. If someone is anonymized in a documentary, they’ll refer to them as “they” even though they’re talking about a specific known person. I know a lot of people who casually refer to babies as “it”. Stuff like that.

    On the trans side of things, it’s really whatever makes someone comfy. I have a non-binary friend who uses she/her pronouns. She leans more feminine than masculine most days, so she prefers she/her. Because non-binary isn’t a third, androgynous gender. It’s a whole category. And as much as cisheteronormative society wants us to be able to look at every single person we meet and immediately correctly guess their gender and pronouns, everyone from binary trans people mid-transition to non-binary people to even many androgynous cis men and women can tell you how often that doesn’t work out correctly. My hair length was unusual for my assigned gender for a long time and I got misgendered a lot. Mostly just annoying for me, but still.


  • I actually use they/them online as a cis person. I Got my sea legs on boards where everyone was “OP” and OP always used they/them pronouns. However, I do not agree with this:

    personal pronouns should be limited as a matter of security on any social media site

    Evangelize all you want about the practice of self-identifying using gender-neutral pronouns, but actually enforcing a rule like this would really suck for trans people. Calling a trans person “a they/them” os a common way to misgendered them on purpose.

    All in all, I think this whole conversation is a good example of how pronouns !== gender. Cis people have plenty of reasons to use gender-neutral pronouns and non-binary trans people often use binary pronouns. Grammatical gender can be wild lol