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Just marry a commie, it’s what I did 🤷

Agreed! I touched on that a bit when comparing the USSR’s GDP to the US Empire’s current GDP below, but comparing to the current economies of Eastern Europe would be even better for proving just how devastating the fall of socialism was, that’s a great point.

GDP in the context of a heavily industrialized socialist economy vs a dying imperialist country where finance is dominant is entirely different. Production continued to meaningfully grow in the USSR, while what we see in the US Empire is a decay in the superprofits stolen from the global south and a hollowed out industrial base, AI bubble, etc, none of which applied to the USSR. Additionally, the economy exploded after the dissolution of the USSR, not before.

The USSR was stable. It was growing slower than before for a number of reasons, but it remains true that it didn’t collapse, it was killed. Do Publicly Owned, Planned Economies Work? by Stephen Gowens is a good essay on some of the factors at play during the dissolution of the USSR. Socialism works.

Economic growth was positive, just slowed. There were numerous reasons for this, from recovery from world war II and the population crisis it caused, to needing to maintain millitary parity with a much wealthier adversary, to economic liberalization, but despite all of this, growth was positive and the systems working. Instead, the soviet union was killed. It didn’t collapse under its own weight and failing systems, but was dismantled on purpose.

The idea that socialist economies were stagnating was used as justification for applying the Washington Consensus and shock therapy, where the west looted the former soviet union for parts and destroyed their economies. Key life metrics plummeted, production crumbled, and took decades to approach their soviet levels.

We will win!

Yep! You see it from time to time.

Awesome, glad to hear it!

I think it’s fair to say that explaining my views more thoroughly when it’s clear that they’ve been misunderstood is important. Further, the original commenter misunderstood the post, thinking it accelerationist, which I tried to explain why it isn’t. None of that was me being condescending.

Lady Izdihar does this kind of short-form theory! I just posted a video link to her over in c/videos.

While not immune, moving to FOSS, federated social media helps by removing the profit motive.

I’m asking you what you meant by your statement. This tactic of being extremely cagey after making a vaguely inflammatory statement doesn’t mean you made your comment with no purpose and nothing to say.

There was, that’s why I asked, giving the 2 most plausable interpretations. Being intentionally vague and obtuse just adds unnecessary friction to coming to an understanding.

You’re free to clarify, but being this intentionally obtuse is frustrating to deal with.

Gotcha, so you meant the latter and are being deliberately obtuse:

You said that you’ve never heard anyone say “nato is going to save us” that wasn’t a “tankie.” “Tankie” is just a pejorative for those that support existing socialism, but “tankies” don’t support NATO. Are you saying you think these “tankies” support NATO, or that these “tankies” are claiming liberals think NATO will save them from the US Empire?

Was that really so hard?

Which “tankie” is saying “NATO is going to save us?”

Which claim is it though?

You said that you’ve never heard anyone say “nato is going to save us” that wasn’t a “tankie.” “Tankie” is just a pejorative for those that support existing socialism, but “tankies” don’t support NATO. Are you saying you think these “tankies” support NATO, or that these “tankies” are claiming liberals think NATO will save them from the US Empire?

It’s clearly a color revolution with heavy Mossad and CIA influence. The “Ghaddaffi treatment” ruined Libya, there’s no chance of this turning into a socialist state right now.

Yep, it’s frustrating because the only reason I gently reached out to them while they flipped 180 on China, calling it imperialist and Blue MAGA, was because I thought they were generally more reasonable. A radlib with good political instincts, but someone that could use real organizing work and study. Unfortunately, it seems they became Bad Empanada poisoned, causing them to see enemies out of every ally by finding imperfections and magnifying them.

Doubly frustrating that they blocked me, rather than respond in earnest. Even before they blocked me, they would just respond with unrelated Bad Empanada tweets. I imagine that’s how the falling out with Grad and Hexbear happened (Grad banned them as well for liberalism).