Well put Mr. Tusk.

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    We could also say that war over there actually started in 2014. But as you also stated, a lot of people were surprised since there is not a neo-liberal side against a communist side anymore since there is no communism anymore in Russia (Do you agree with this? Apart from the single-party political structure which can be called with various names, the economy is maybe watched by the gov but still liberal).

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      The fact that Russia is no longer communist and NATO has continued to expand and surround Russia is a clear demonstration that this has never been an ideological conflict. And that illustrates that Russia does indeed have legitimate security concerns, because it’s clear that the goal of NATO expansion is to contain Russia.

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        the goal of NATO expansion is to contain Russia.

        Not so much contain as to colonise, Russia has been contained all that time but they still expanded more.

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          9 hours ago

          Yeah that was supposed to be the big prize, and then they could plunder Russia and surround China from the west. Didn’t really work out though, and now all the western fash are seething.

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        21 hours ago

        Containing Russia is probably some thing due to the fact that Russia does not allow a political choice since decades