• @privacyn
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    52 years ago

    I think we should deal with the fact that modern times were shaped by iPhones, not by Windows phones or any other pre-iPhone things. Technology evolves and being able to make a product that works for the majority and that its adoption changes the world we live in (for the better or the worse) must be recognised. Saying that Microsoft or whatever did something similar before is nonsense: everything is an evolution from the past. So we can be anti-Apple or anti-anything, but we should accept and stop minimising the fact that Apple changed things and made history.

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      The only real things Apple did well was marketing. There were phones that had all the same features, were less expensive, had better apps, and was more versatile than the iPhone, before the iPhone existed. Only difference was that they were aimed at businesses and professionals, and the UX and app ecosystem was designed around power users. Apple merely dumbed down the UX to make it suitable for both grandma and sweet sixteen Bethany to use, wouldn’t really call that making history.

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        It’s possible, but I don’t see marketing a bad thing, on the contrary. However, to be honest I can’t think about anything similar to iPhone that was cheaper, better and with better apps, can you give me some examples?

    • @stopit@lemmy.ml
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      Eh…they kinda combined palm pilot with a cellphone. Used watered down macOs (aka…mostlty from permissive free licenced already there software)…but, they did work on a very pretty UI (that they actually made).

      Apple’s revolution, in my mind, is their marketing department. They sure wrapped Unix in shiny and shinier boxes and learned how to rip off trendy people whilsed getting praised for “innovation”.

      Just my useless 2 cents! Take it for what it’s worth.

      • @ree@lemmy.ml
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        Nah their révolution is taking the éléments you presented in your first paragraph and made it work plus marketing.

      • @privacyn
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        yes, that “kinds combined palm with a phone” it’s not so easy, as it’s not so easy to provide a UI that works fine and it’s easy to use. If this is not innovation, what is it? Now it looks easy, but it wasn’t the case. Marketing per se is not a bad thing, it’s a capitalistic society where companies need to sell and prevail over others and marketing helps inform/promote products.