“Signal is being blocked in Venezuela and Russia. The app is a popular choice for encrypted messaging and people trying to avoid government censorship, and the blocks appear to be part of a crackdown on internal dissent in both countries…”

  • Novman
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    4 months ago

    In UK don’t ban them, but jail you if they don’t like your posts, more democratic.

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      4 months ago

      While I don’t live in the UK I do believe they have protections on free speech.

      If you are concerned you can always hide your identity.

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        I’m not living in uk, i live in italy. I saw every kind of comment written on italian social networks and i have never seen a conviction. When the police had taken the names of protesters, ( not arrested ) we had a public outcry. We had arrest for direct call for violence, not simply rants. So seeing people jailed for rants on twitter scares me. We have actual fascists and communists, both parties were strong, and we had an actual civil war. We have strong linguistic minorities and regional parties. So a lot of people hating each other. Who decide the right speech in such a situation?

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          Are people really jailed for rants in the UK? I’ve only seen stories of actual call to violence.

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            The line between rants and call for violence is quite blurred in some cases IMHO

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              4 months ago

              Can you give an exemple of such case in the recent events in the UK?

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                  4 months ago

                  So she has been arrested, not jailed. We don’t know much about this specific case yet but this has nothing to do with a rant, like you said.

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            And normaly it is very difficult to be comdemned for a generic rant. It is easier in case of insults or defamtion, but it is mostly an high fee. Jailing a political adversary for a speech ( when we had a lot of political/mafia killing in the past ) is a big no. We had actual people killed for their speech.

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      4 months ago

      I’m not aware of the kingdom of whataboutistan. Is it related to this post somehow?

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        4 months ago

        Yes, different kind of censorship in the world. A more broad vision.

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          4 months ago

          Keep going, then. Any other country to mention, seeing how it’s important to you? Russia? China? Italy? India? Pakistan?

          I somehow feel your “broad” is actually quite narrow. Usually happens with the whatabautisms

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            4 months ago

            Why going so long when we have a near, english-speaking , clean example of a country famous for the free speech. If you have the highest example of human rights why check the rest.

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              So much from broadening… As soon as I mention any other suddenly there’s no point checking other countries.