Since red., DD Geopolitics etc. have been banned from the mainstream social media platforms after the stupidest US State Department announcement, I was thinking twice about joining Rumble. However, the biggest obstacle for joining was queerphobia.

PS: Might invite red. and DD Geopolitics to join the site.

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    Isn’t Rumble ultimately just a platform? Avoid the queerphobic content/creators. Unless Rumble itself can detect when a website visitor is queer and stop working or something.

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      Ultimately it is going to be inevitable that communists migrate to alternative platforms because the mainstream ones are just going to escalate their crack downs on anti-imperialist content. Branding these alternative platforms as “right wing platforms” is not going to help us in the long run. It will become a self-fulfilling prophecy as leftists will avoid them and these places will become more and more right wing echochambers. Meanwhile, everyone who remains dependent on the mainstream platforms will be forced to increasingly self-censor out of fear of getting banned.

      The best thing to do is to establish a presence on these alternative platforms sooner rather than than later so that when the ban on the mainstream spaces does come we will be ready and will not be starting from zero.

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        You said it better than I did, lmao, I should have just read yours first. But yes, I think currently there isn’t any blatant censorship or algorithmic suppression of left content on Rumble. I’ve seen plenty of Pro Palestinian (and, annoyingly Pro Israel too) content on there with a reasonable viewership. Rumbles management doesn’t care, as they currently just want people to use their platform, and they hardly get advertising due to the stigma against them in corporate circles.

        I have no doubt that if the tables flip, and Rumble becomes big and mainstream enough to start getting pressure from the US government and corporate sponsors, this will probably all change and it would just become another Youtube. But that hasn’t happened yet, and it means it’s still able to be uncensored.

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          I have no doubt that if the tables flip, and Rumble becomes big and mainstream enough to start getting pressure from the US government and corporate sponsors, this will probably all change

          That’s probably how it will go. Then a new Rumble will appear and so on. The last resort of the imperialists will be to censor the internet right at the provider level, which will leave the imperial core (“the West”) in an information bubble increasingly detached from reality.

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      Rumble is for far right cranks who were booted from mainstream platforms like Twitch for being too fascist. You could use it just as a platform but it has a far right bent because of its origins.

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        I wouldn’t know, I think I watched a pro-RU video on the war in Ukraine on Rumble once, but I can’t remember. I don’t use it. I was just encouraging op that if they want to try something, they should. If they don’t like it, they can always stop using it.

        Essentialist labels shut down curiosity, when really people should see things for themselves, otherwise how will they know? I’m not just talking about the internet, but I mean in real life too. How many times have we heard “that place? oh, that’s the _________ place.” and they don’t need to say “don’t go there”, but just by what they said and their tone the “…don’t go there” is implied. It’s a form of social pressure and a way to enforce conformity in a group. I’m sure most people who do it, do it subconsciously, either to protect the thought bubble in the group, thus strengthening the group, or for fear of losing a group member to another, incompatible interest. But I digress…

        You could use it just as a platform but it has a far right bent because of its origins.

        How do they handle leftist/communist content? I mean, do they censor opposing political ideologies or do they ban/delete leftist content? Because that’s the important bit. If they do censor leftist content, then they’re just a right-wing propaganda outlet.

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          They don’t censor leftist content from my knowledge. It is probably the same thing as reddit where they will allow it until it becomes too prominent to ignore.

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            Perhaps Rumble is not enemy territory, but an opportunity. Cause while the people who run it and lots of content creators on it may be right-wing/fascist, that doesn’t mean that all the people visiting are. In fact, I’d say that most who visit aren’t. People are scared and confused, they’re looking for anything that makes sense and they can get behind. Communists should be providing that alternative. Speaking to people’s frustrations, understanding where they’re coming from and then offering an alternative to liberalism, fascism, conservatism.