• minnow@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    If by “defending” you mean “placing blame where it belongs” then yeah.

    Like, if a serial killer has killed ten people then gets charged with killing an eleventh, but he didn’t, then I’d “defend” him too because the person who actually did the crime is still out there and should be held accountable.

    You’re making it out as if I’m trying to say the serial killer didn’t murder anybody. That’s not what I’m saying.

    The Democrats fucked up, big time. But it’s the electorate who let a fascist win.

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        10 days ago

        “You better stop selling weapons to Israel so that Iran can steamroll you, or we’re going to throw the largest and most powerful country to the fascists”

        I wouldn’t take that insanity seriously either. And that’s why I’m getting downvoted by a bunch of insane failures of anti fascism. Which is fine, I’m only frustrated at your refusal to take responsibility for your failure, which no amount of “they made me do it” will absolve you from; you’re responsible for your actions, nobody else.

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          10 days ago

          Indeed we are, and my actions will never support a genocidal candidate while yours did. Doesn’t particularly matter which genocidal we get when thats the bar. I will admit to a small perverse pleasure knowing you dweeds will be suffering at least a small amount of discomfort. It was the least i could do for the harm we’ve inflicted on Palestinians and the shit stain behavior of people like yourself and harris.

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            10 days ago

            The irony of this comment is profound.

            I’m proud of my choices because I fought to harm as few people as possible.

            You’re proud of your choice because you believe your hands are clean despite your choice harming the most number of people.

            Your hands are not clean. I hope some day you realize it.

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              10 days ago

              Incorrect i voted just not for harris or trump, i warned all of you this was going to happen months in advance. You had time to get your act together and pressure Harris. i was i literally begged you idiots for months. I gave you dunces options to still vote for barris while tanking her in the polls, messaging her, etc.

              Now you see the lesser evil nonsense is just utilitarianism. A philosophy that promotes always choosing the harm to the least amount of people.

              Unfortunately its a philosophy that is uniquely structured to allow people, like yourself, to think they’re making the best decision. Unfortunately when you have a voting system like ours all it does it let groups like the DNC promote people like trump. Which they’ve been doing for the last 8 years.

              By doing this the dnc gets to act more and more like trump while you are blissfully morally bankrupted thinking you’re doing the correct thing.

              Instead all that has happen is you were a frog in a pot getting boiled. Look at you now progenocider, pro immigrant children in cages, antiworking class, literally watched harris shit all over a minority group like a Republicans do. You’re all grown up and you didnt even realize it.

              Itd be funny if your behavior hasnt been fucking over everyone here at home for literally my entire life. All people like myself did was expose it for what it is. A bad fucking decision that we will not be apart of. Congrats you cut off your noses and spited your face. 🤡

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                9 days ago

                lol

                Go on, pigeon. Shit on the chess board some more and blame other people for your own actions. I’m sure if you shit hard enough, nothing will be your fault.

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                  Yeah sucks when people point out just how shit of a decision you’ve been making and how you failed to see the consequences of your actions.

                  Lost two key demographics for the big tent party with your lesser evil nonsense.

                  Next time some people go ‘hey maybe we shouldn’t mass murder other people?’ you’ll fucking listen. But given the massive lack of self reflection going on by individuals like yourself i doubt it.

                  First the came for the arabs, but i was not an arab so i didn’t speak out…

                  This saying is about you and yours. Please look into the history of it.

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            10 days ago

            You’re absolutely correct. Your actions didn’t support a “genocidal candidate”. But your INACTION certainly supported a genocidal candidate.

            This is entirely on all of you.

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                    Yeah. won’t be wasting my time reading the nonsense of a person who couldn’t even make the smallest effort to protect the marginalized people in their own country.

                    You sacrificed your own country to make a statement in protest over actions happening in another country that will happen with our without America being involved. If even go as far as saying that I don’t think you even knew there was a conflict going on over there before last October.

                    This is a well known fact. It is not up for debate. And the fact that it will be FAR worse now- seems to be a consequence of actions you’re unwilling to take even part of the blame for- and You have the nerve to call me an ostrich?

                    So no. I won’t be reading your rhetoric. I have zero respect for you- or anything you have to say.

                    The hardships to come that will be suffered by the LGBTQ+ and women in America is on you and those like you.

                    So, face them… and take your bow.