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          9 days ago

          Don’t think he counts because the Ring had no power over him. So while he did have it briefly, he wasn’t a “Ring bearer” any more than the river.

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            He had agency and consciously took and held the ring.

            The river only had it because the ring abandoned Isildur, and it fell there.

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        Did he ever actually have the ring? I know he tried to take it from Frodo, but i don’t think he succeeded. Unless i’m getting confused since i have watched the movies more recently than i have read the books…

        Edit: totally forgot about outside moria. apparently i need to do a re-read AND a re-watch lol.

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    1850 years with the ring and accomplished nothing? What did he expect to be different? The ring didn’t work. Try something new.

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      If your only source is the movies, one of the annoying gripes about them is they have this deceptive editing that makes it seem like Frodo left the Shire within a relatively short timespan after the birthday party.

      Frodo got the ring on the 22nd of September of 3001. He leaves Bag End on the 23rd of September…of 3018.

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        10 days ago

        Someone should edit the movie to have a transparency of a calendar having its pages blown in the wind until it lands on 3018.

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          Yes, I have always from the first time I saw the movies thought that’s what they needed. A five second clip of that and nothing else about the movie has to change!

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        Interesting, though that still doesn’t explain the aging part though. I get that Hobbits age slower than humans but if their life expectancy is only 100 years, the difference should be noticeable right?

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          Sam aged, Frodo did not. I recall several mentions throughout the books that Frodo was considered unusually young-looking for a 50-year old hobbit, just as Bilbo himself was very young-looking for 111. Owning the ring seems to basically just pause your aging, even if you’re not using it.

          Sam was also twelve years younger than Frodo, but since Frodo stopped aging for 17 years, he wound up effectively older, physically speaking.

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        according to Google they have a life expectancy of 100 years, so they do age a bit slower but a ~20 year difference should still be noticeable

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    11 days ago

    So like, an animated series featuring river fish, like Finding Nemo but with the One Ring?

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      I would watch this again and again and treasure it and call it my precious FOREVER.

      The movie could be a long story arc with the main fish getting the ring stuck around them and having all sorts of adventures, learning valuable lessons and finally returning to their spawning point to teach the other local fish all the knowledge the main fish had learned. It would all wrap up to this beautifully happy ending and BAM! Déagol grabs it. Movie ends.

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    Middle Earth itself has been described as the “ring” that Morgoth poured his own power into. Since a river is an extension of Middle Earth, it means Morgoth really was the true Lord of the Rings.