• FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    20 hours ago

    I kinda get what you mean, am I’m really weirded out by how obsessed the US is with ethnic groups, like “black vote”, “white vote” etc, because most countries don’t focus on race like that.

    But data wise, Trump barely increased his vote share in white men over last election, but significantly increased in black men, so I think that’s why some data analysts are pointing it out as an interesting shift in the electorate. However to suggest it’s any ethnic group’s “fault” someone won is just stupid. And if you’re gonna do that, try gen-X white men living in the countryside.

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      19 hours ago

      That’s because most countries are far more ethnically homogenous than the US. The ones that aren’t show similar patterns. Look at India for example. Or Israel.

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        18 hours ago

        This is, of course, Ameri-centric horseshit. American voting is reported on as white, black, Latino and not-statisitcally-significant. Meanwhile they’ll call other countries “ethnically homogenous” mostly because they don’t know anything about any other countries or literally thousands of years of finding any reason to hate each other. Motherfucker I don’t care if we’re genetically identical I’ll be dead and buried before I vote for a fucking Walloon/Protestant/Catholic/Silesian/Scouser/Galician/Lombard/Frisian (delete as appropriate). They haven’t at any point all been thrown into a cage, deprived of their heritage and told “nah you’re just black/mexican now”. And it ignores that yes, global migration is global. Every colonial state has left people behind in its former colonies, and found themselves with former subjects as citizens too.

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          Wow, chill out! I was very careful to use the word more. I didn’t say other countries are ethnically homogenous in the absolute sense, just relative to the US. Take Japan for example. Yes, there are quite a lot of ethnic minorities in Japan (both indigenous and foreign) however well over 90% of the country identifies only as Japanese and nothing else. This is a very different picture from the US.

          You can see a similar story many other countries but not all. India, for example, has many ethnic groups which are strongly distinguished by language, religion, and culture. It’s also the case that ethnicity plays a major role in the politics of India and that role has been increasing of late, not diminishing.

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            Japan is a major exception to the general trend though. They are one of the only western democracies that barely accept any migrants.

            And even then, Japan has a significant population of what used to be Korean Slaves during the war, to someone in the US, they might “look the same” but these people are heavily discriminated against, a lot of them are statless and refused citizenship because of their korean heritage, even if they lived in Japan for 80+ years.

            And that’s ignoring the forced homogenisation in the late 19th and early 20th centuries during the Meijing Restoration. Where all the minor ethnic groups in Japan were forcibly “mixed in” and their culture was destroyed and replaced with the majority group’s culture to create an ethnostate.

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            17 hours ago

            “I just got back from touring Ireland. It’s wild over there. It just goes to show that without blacks, Jews, or Mexicans, people will improvise!”

            -Jimmie Walker

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      19 hours ago

      As an outsider, my guess is to construct and and cultivate the idea that minorities vote in a block. I mean, no one literally needs to be told that non white people all vote for the same person or anything. However, it only has to work just enough to make just enough white people vote down racial lines.