And we shouldn’t allow this concept to go unchallenged here on Lemmy.

Commenting on an active post is not brigading

Posting a link to something is not brigading

Commenting on something you were linked to is not brigading

The only thing that might be brigading, but isn’t because it isn’t a real thing, is someone explicitly going, “Hey everyone, go here and harass this person”

It’s all fine and good that we have some new rules to keep the peace with other instances but we must fight against reddit-logo brainworms

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    Who says we were ever trying to ‘convert people’? That’s not how these things work. If they have an interest in reading further and developing their understanding, they will do it themselves. We cannot and should not try to hand-hold online people.

    The internet is for dunking, chapo posting is understanding that what this entire place is, and what it is good for, is skinner-box behaviorism. Hit the button, get a treat, hit another button, get a shock. They don’t like the shock, that is why they are bitching about us. But if they got a treat, then their brain stops working and they move onto getting the next treat.

    These are things that people have either forgotten, or lessons that need to be re-learned about generalized posting.

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        This isn’t an attempt to develop Africa and convince multiple at-odds ethnic groups to develop their country in harmony and not backstab each other for political dominance. It’s posting habits and practices in an obscure online Western forum.

        Marxism and materialism are not about blindly applying idealist quotations from people in vastly different material circumstances, it is about recognizing the particular material circumstances you are in and behaving accordingly.

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      It’s not just that you can’t convert them so you shouldn’t try, it’s that by antagonizing them you push them even further away from mutual understanding. We set up the pretense that all their future interactions with leftists will be no better than the time their shit opinion got PPB’d. It’s not rational, but it’s how this stuff often goes. I get the frustration of being met with absolute nonsense when you’re trying to have a proper discussion with someone, but I think we also have to consider the ramifications of creating an absolute shitstorm whenever someone posts uninformed bullshit.

      FWIW I am pretty new here so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but when I first encountered a bunch of bears in a thread my first thought was “what the fuck is wrong with these people.” I had to sift through many pictures of shit-smeared pig testicles to find out what Hexbear was really about, and even further to find out that you’re all a bunch of really great people. Not everyone will take the time necessary to separate the rhetoric from the culture like I did out of curiosity. Most will see the worst and form hasty, unfair conclusions about the community and it will only poison their interactions going forward. It sux and I don’t think Hexbear should water down its culture for the sake of any other community, but I think we all could do with being a little more mindful of how aggro we can be when we dunk and what it looks like to people who just want to laugh at shit memes on their phone.