• SoyViking [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Come on, let’s have a nuclear war. It’s not that bad. It’s just the immediate destruction of all major population centres of the developed world and fallout that will haunt survivors for generations. It’s no big deal! Stop being such a chicken about it!

  • SootyChimney [any]@hexbear.net
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    The reality is: Nobody is sure, any nuclear bombing is species-wide suicide at worst, an insanely pointless gamble at best. The vague consensus seems to be it would take a maximum 100 warheads to irreversibly destroy ecology worldwide, some suggest it would only take a few modern warheads. I suggest we do all we can to not fucking find out.

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        That’s actually not that new. I think that was part of it.

        It is important to remember why cities were building highways through the fifties and sixties; why the federal government was promoting low-density suburban development and why companies were moving their corporate head offices to campuses in the country: Civil defense. One of the best defenses against nuclear bombs is sprawl; the devastation of a bomb can only cover so much area. Shawn Lawrence Otto wrote in Fool Me Twice[.]

        https://www.treehugger.com/why-sprawl-was-caused-nuclear-arms-race-and-why-matters-more-ever-today-4854403

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          Problem with the suburban sprawl protects against nukes logic, is strategic nuclear warheads just got exponentially more powerful to compensate. Rather than 10 to 20 kiloton weapons that can wipe out the dense urban center of a major city, everyone started building 10,000 to 25,000 kiloton warheads that enable only a half dozen warheads to turn a few hundred square miles of suburban spawl into a firestorm.

          The argument only made sense in the early 1950s before everyone figured out how to create multi megaton strategic nuclear weapons. Idiots fail to fully grasp just how powerful strategic nuclear weapons became.

          • Dolores [love/loves]@hexbear.net
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            oh you widened your city 50 miles? i’ll just stuff a few extra warheads in this here missile and make sure i saturate the whole thing 🥰

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    I’ve studied nuclear weapons. I’m no physicist but I’ve read pretty extensively on the after-effects.

    These people are fucking stupid

    Do they address why they have smaller yields? Because targeting systems are much more advanced. That’s it. That’s the reason. It’s like arguing it’s better to be shot in the heart with a single round rather than blasted with buckshot in the center of the chest. You’re still fucking dead.

    • determinism2 [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      I have a PhD in nuclear physics from a top 10 science guy university in the world, and I don’t believe nuclear armageddon is a problem. And I’m also not interested in discussing it (just so that no one comes with bs talking points, I’ve seen enough). I’m just saying this so that you don’t stumble on your own delusional bubble too much.

      You don’t believe in science. You believe in TV. You haven’t read a single peer reviewed paper on the matter, let alone papers that have a different point of view. So spare me your condescending bullshit.

      Now go ahead and downvote me so that you can sleep better at night after having excluded me, the infidel. Just remember that many people out there have degrees, educated and read 100 times on the matter than you and disagree with your delusions on the matter. Enjoy four faith in TV.

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      You mean you actually care about the world going up in an atomic hellstorm?

      But what about freedom and liberty as held to my own strange and self-destructive definition? frothingfash

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    Make these people’ watch Thread because they seem to believe that not getting fried in the first strike is a win

    They never know what it’s like to dig trench with shovel to build ‘‘bunker’’ that are more like 1.5 meter deep trench to prep for an eventual nuclear war

    • IBurnedMyFingers@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Did anyone else feel like the second Act of threads was a lot weaker than the first?

      Spoilers

      The bunker part was the most interesting part after the bombs dropped, and getting to watch them more would have been more interesting than the main woman IMO.

      • Fishroot [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        reddit people believe they are strong enough to do hard labor and not minced by cannibalistic tribe due to food shortage is unironic main character symptom

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          reddit people believe they are strong enough to do hard labor and not minced by cannibalistic tribe

          The CEO of reddit-logo fantasizes about being a slaver warlord in the fantastical Fallouterino wastes, and even bragged about getting his vision surgically corrected so he could “snipe looters.” bakunin-immortan

          unironic main character symptom

          The cognitohazard plague of “what if everything simulation” and its almost inevitable followup “what if everyone but me and people I like are NPCs” is a part of that too. my-hero

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            Spez is absolutely someone who would think that and get instantly merced by his operator 2IC he hired under shady circumstances before the apocalypse.

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    “Don’t worry so much guys, we’re not gonna get Fallout’d! A few hundred million brown people across the world will die, so it won’t really be any different from normal!”

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      AND FALLOUT WAS LE EPIC TOO SO IT WOULD BE EPIC TO WANDER THE WASTES AS A LARPER WITH A GUN EXCEPT KILLING UNDESIRABLES FOR REAL

      soypoint-1 nuke soypoint-2

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          The earlier games went pretty far out of their way to condemn not only nuclear war as a supernatural-level horror but also said the world that existed before the nuclear war was an unjust and terrible place that sort of had it coming.

          By the time of Fallout 76, the pay-to-win big spending libertarians were encouraged to re-nuke the map to get bonus epic loot. so-true