• JJROKCZ@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Nice! Implementation of high speed rail is needed to get the populace away from frequent wasteful flights

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      1 year ago

      exactly, putting aside the economic benefits this will bring, the ecological impact is huge, especially compared to air travel.

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      Oh man, I’d love to just hop on a train from Seattle to the Bay Area. Leg room & naps all the way.

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          80s and 90s is still good weather lol I just got done with a week of 100+ with heat index of 115+ in the Midwest, outside was death. Coastal California has optimal weather year round, it doesn’t actually get hot or cold from what I’ve seen

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            It’s pretty hot for us. We basically stay in the high 60s to high 70s for almost 10 months a year… Then Aug and Sept happen

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      Is there any specific reason someone might be against it beyond the cost?

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        The cost is admittedly going to be ludicrous compared to comparable projects anywhere else in the world.

        But it’s probably more just ‘this is a thing that helps the godless commie city folk’.

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        I think the general arguments are noise and space required.

        Though I fail to see how a train make more noise then a plane or tracks take up more space then a airport/runway.

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        They have been conditioned to hate anything the government does. If some company like Tesla actually made an effective transit system everyone would sing its praises, but if the government does it then that’s socialism.

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    Hopefully the implementation is done in a well and thoughtful way, such as connected stations in city centers and outskirt towns.

    It would also be nice to see these stations interconnected with transit hubs such as subways/trams/buses, and have a pedestrian orientation focus with cycle infrastructure included.

    It would be a shame to see these station built outside of walking distance of any surrounding communities in the middle of nowhere with a carpark all around. Something similar to a Walmart Supercenter parking lot.

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      You can see on the California government website where the current plan is to integrate with each part of the city. Many of the bigger population centres will have stations right at (what sound like to me as) major transit hubs. Unfortunately, the 2030 target is for operation between Bakersfield - Madera, so the parts around SF and LA will still take a bit longer than that.

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    1 year ago

    @Trekman10@sh.itjust.works posted the same news earlier, I thought I checked before posting but I guess I didn’t make out what CAHSR was.

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    I feel like I’ve heard attempts at this from over a decade ago… doubting I’ll see this within my lifetime at this point.

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      I can understand your skepticism, but you may be slightly misinformed. High speed rail corridors don’t pop up overnight, and they take longer if you want it to be built as economically, safe, and well-thought out as possible. For this project we are about 15 years after voters approved the idea 2008, so that part is true as you say. So planning is done to get the most efficient and effective path which takes years, consulting the public takes years, building it takes more years, then testing and commissioning is the cherry on top. The American idea of “I can do this all by myself without any European/Asian help” is certainly slowing things down and making it expensive as well. Due to inflation the costs also will rise but so will the cost of any alternative be it maintaining highway systems, managing traffic and pollution.

      See the progress of the project for yourself at their website. Or a detailed summary on the Wikipedia page.

      These must be golf pegs for Godzilla! :)

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      That’s what the Hyperloop was for. California was attempting high speed rail, Musk thought a functional rail infrastructure would lower demand for his shitty cars, so he proposed his own alternative. The state accepted, cancelled the rail project, and he proceeded to cancel the Hyperloop because he never intended to build it, it was just a scheme to trick the state into leaving its rail infrastructure in the 19th century.

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      lol, they’re estimating that it will be complete by 2030. There’s already a bunch of track that is laid down. Unless you’re in your death bed now. in which case, yeah sorry, not your lifetime.

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      You’re right! They spent over two billion dollars and didn’t lay any track, about 12-15 years ago. They have some track down now, but I lost track of their budget and timeline a long time ago.