In 1966, after years of friction with the US over whether France should have its own independent nuclear deterrent, the French president, Charles de Gaulle, withdrew his country from Nato’s integrated command (not, however, from the alliance itself – a common misconception) and asked all US forces stationed in France to leave. In response, the US secretary of state, Dean Rusk, asked de Gaulle: “Does that include the dead Americans in military cemeteries as well?”

In a single weekend, JD Vance’s direct attacks on European democracy at the Munich Security Conference and his meeting with far-right, anti-European political forces in Germany, have given de Gaulle his historic vindication.

There are some things that you avoid saying for as long as you can, for fear that just uttering the words will help bring them into being.

  • Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 days ago

    The EU will capitulate to keep the US military in the EU. To be candid, I think the USA is an evil empire, but I’m more afraid for the world if the chauvanist Europeans ever had strong militaries again. Their whole culture is based on colonialism and exploitation. A weak europe is good for the world.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 day ago

      Once the current tantrum ends, that’s what I expect will happen as well because they frankly have no other choice now. That said though, it’s not at all clear that the US will stay even if Europe begs them too.