With All Due Respect to Ukraine’s Foreign Minister, We Will Not ‘Shut Up’
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Ukraine Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba recently delivered an unusually blunt criticism of Western analysts. Those who have argued Ukraine’s summer offensive has been “too slow,” the foreign minister exclaimed, should “shut up.” While Kuleba’s agitation is entirely understandable, the U.S. Administration has an obligation to unemotionally view the war as it genuinely is, not as we would wish it to be, and make decisions based on U.S. interests—which are not always identical with Ukraine’s interests.

This is one of the first mainstream articles that’s openly talking about the fact that US is not going to keep supporting Ukraine for “as long as it takes”

U.S. Administration has an obligation to unemotionally view the war as it genuinely is, not as we would wish it to be, and make decisions based on U.S. interests—which are not always identical with Ukraine’s interests.

It further admits that the offensive is a failure and Ukraine is unlikely achieve any significant gains regardless of what the west sends

The hard truth is that a sober analysis of both Ukraine’s three-month summer offensive and an assessment of the war overall leads to the conclusion not simply that the offensive is going “too slow” but that it appears unlikely to succeed. Arguably, it won’t matter how much time Kyiv is given, how many weapons it is provided, and how much ammunition the West delivers: completely evicting Russia from the territory it illegally seized appears to be a militarily unattainable aspiration.

There is finally an admission in the mainstream that prolonging the war simply results in more people dying and Ukraine losing more territory, an obvious fact that libs continue to dismiss and ridicule today

Without a change in policy, Washington’s approach is poised to condemn tens of thousands of additional Ukrainians to unnecessary deaths and reduce more Ukrainian territory to dust.

There’s finally an admission that Ukraine has at least 200k dead and wounded. While likely lower than the actual losses, it is a significantly higher number than what western media has been peddling up to this point

More critically, Ukraine has lost a conservatively estimated 200,000 soldiers killed and wounded, including tens of thousands who have had limbs blown off and an unknown – but likely massive – number of troops with post-traumatic stress disorder and traumatic brain injuries.

There’s also an admission that US inventory has dried up, and replacements will take years to produce

After the first 18 months of this war, the U.S. has contributed over two million artillery shells, thousands of tanks and other armored vehicles, and tens of thousands of anti-air and anti-tank missiles. Whatever slack there was in our inventories has long since evaporated. Though we have started the process of expanding our industrial capacity to produce more arms and weapons, it will be years before we catch up to demand. The fact is, we will have to diminish our own military capacity to provide Ukraine with what it needs, harming our own national security.

  • zephyreks [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    Ah yes, because crop rotation in the shit show that is northern soil would go so well. Where’s the evidence? Many Canadian soil science experts have written off the promise of boreal land: the soil would take decades if not centuries to rehabilitate.

    Meanwhile, you don’t seem to understand that even small age gaps create marginal imbalances that need to be filled, which (if filled by small age gaps again) leads to a knock-on effect down the population pyramid.

    Every government has corruption. Are you surprised by this? In an example that you will understand, US elections are horrendously corrupt because of rampant gerrymandering and no restrictions on corporate PAC donations. However, people still consider US elections to be “fair” and “just.” Ukraine’s elections have been no more corrupt than they usually are, which I proved to you and am happy to provide more sources for. To which point you… moved the goalposts with no evidence. At least put some effort into your argument, please.

    A lack of evidence is either a lack of intelligence or deliberate bad faith.

    • TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      Ah yes, because crop rotation in the shit show that is northern soil would go so well. Where’s the evidence? Many Canadian soil science experts have written off the promise of boreal land: the soil would take decades if not centuries to rehabilitate.

      This has all been an argument about Russia needing Ukraine for food security, despite Russia being one of the largest grain exporters in the world. I’m sorry, I don’t think Canadian “soil scientists” are really going to substantiate that kind of reversal.

      Meanwhile, you don’t seem to understand that even small age gaps create marginal imbalances that need to be filled, which (if filled by small age gaps again) leads to a knock-on effect down the population pyramid.

      But we’re talking about a huge age gap between two different nations… not small age gaps within one society. Your age gaps need to be at least compatible, and preferably not thousands of miles away from each other to offset surplus.

      Every government has corruption.

      Again, you’re falsely equivocating the corruption that happens within a country, with corruption being imported by a neighboring country because they want something from you. It’s just like what the US does to Mexico.

      Ukraine’s elections have been no more corrupt than they usually are, which I proved to you and am happy to provide more sources for.

      You didnt actually give any sources, you just made statements. Here is an actual example of a source

      While the interference did not live up to worst fears, numerous examples of it can be found in the kinetic, disinformation, and cyber realms over a period of months. Russia’s war with Ukraine and its occupation of parts of Ukraine’s territory constitute the most blatant interference, including the disenfranchisement of some 16 percent of the electorate living in Crimea and areas around Donetsk and Luhansk.

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      To which point you… moved the goalposts with no evidence

      Pointing out that you made an assumption is moving the goal post?

      here](https://kyivindependent.com/investigative-stories-from-ukraine-pro-russian-politicians-under-sanctions-in-us-eu-yet-not-in-ukraine-2/)

      A lack of evidence is either a lack of intelligence or deliberate bad faith.

      Lol, you say that after already making several unsubstantiated claims?

      • zephyreks [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        1 year ago

        Your source is… the Atlantic Council? The same institution that’s well known for being a US intelligence front?

        The Atlantic Council’s six fellows this year come from the Department of State, CIA, Office of the Secretary of Defense, Navy, USIA, and the Congressional Research Service

        • CIA-RDP88B004443R000100550001-3

        The Stanford Internet Observatory, the University of Washington, the Atlantic Council’s Digital Forensic Research Lab, and Graphika all have inadequately-disclosed ties to the Department of Defense, the C.I.A., and other intelligence agencies. They work with multiple U.S. government agencies to institutionalize censorship research and advocacy within dozens of other universities and think tanks.

        • Sworn testimony as part of “The Censorship Industrial Complex,” given to the House Committee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government

        The Atlantic Council consists of a bunch of warhawks keen on foreign interference:

        STEPHEN HADLEY: If I were in my old job I would be thinking about lethal assistance – yes. But you know this is why you have a CIA, you know this is why you have covert action and I would be thinking – do we want to do it explicitly to send a message to Putin? Or do you want to do it covertly? You know I think we tend now to talk too much and act too little. And sometimes it’s good if weapons just start showing up on the battlefield.

        Not to mention literally racist:

        JAMES CLAPPER: And just the historical practices of the Russians, who typically, are almost genetically driven to co-opt, penetrate, gain favor, whatever, which is a typical Russian technique

        Glad to know who I’m talking to, I guess. How’s the weather in Fort Briggs this time of year?

        • TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee
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          1 year ago

          Lol. Demands source, offers none in return, doesn’t dispute what’s said, just the attacking the source itself… Genius level debate initiated.

          Fort Briggs this time of year?

          You mean Fort Braggs, Fort Briggs is from an anime my dude? I think I see what happening here… did you go full Khmer rouge and snap your own glasses in half or something?