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Loved AppleTV, but unsubscribed for all non-essential US services after Trump killed the USA’s friendship with Canada.
That being said, I was already strugging to justify the price vs the frequecy of content.
Severence, The Morning Show (S1) and Ted Lasso were all excellent TV, but by the time a new season came out I could have bought a new Blu Ray of the show.
I cancelled mine. Runs until December but it’s not worth it for me to continue. I’ll buy a month here and there and binge through new stuff. All these subscription services are like cable tv back then.
That’s what I started doing. 2-3 times a year, I will pick up Hulu or Netflix for a month or two and binge everything. I usually keep a list of what I want to watch and go through that when I resubscribe. The key is to unsubscribe as soon as you sign up or very shortly after, so you don’t forget.
AppleTV is one I don’t do this with but only because I get it through a bundle and they have been putting out some good content. If the price goes up again, I may consider changing that.
I do the same. List and all. Apple TV was my last holdout but with the whole Apple/Trump/threats to my country I cancelled a few months ago. It’s still good until end of the year but I won’t subscribe again. It goes into the 1 month binge rotation like the other ones. I don’t have a bundle. I only use Apple Fitness+ and TV+ but if the fitness program won’t get a serious bump this fall it’s gone too. They can’t even do proper filters. Programming is good but the usability is terrible.
That seems like the right way to handle things. Sign up when you are actively watching stuff. With subscriptions on Apple devices, it’s pretty simple to manage.
Other services might be more bothersome. But I don’t think many have a bunch of hoops to jump through either.
They’ve got some quality shows there
Severance goes so hard, every episode is like a movie level of quality
Totally agree
Yo ho yo ho…
What’s the logic you employ here? I’m just curious how you think through it. Besides “Piracy!”
What’s the logic you employ here? I’m just curious how you think through it.
ok yea so basically i-
Besides “Piracy!”
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too many streaming services. can’t afford them all but I want to watch foundation🤠
If people get priced out of a service, there’s no legal way to enjoy the content for free. It sounds trivial, but when everything is going up in price at a rate way faster than wages go up, people have to start being more frugal.
Though that doesn’t mean people are ready to be ascetics and deny themselves all forms of pleasure in the name of frugality, either. As an example, the US film and movie theater industries were still doing good business during the Great Depression because people sought entertainment to help them get through hard times. But I have to imagine that if there was a “free” option to watch movies/TV back then, legal or otherwise, people would have been all over it.
That option exists today, and so I can’t fault people for making the choice. I mean for one, Apple doesn’t exactly need the money. They’re as big and rich as corporations get. If Apple is concerned about pirates, then they need to rethink their service model again before pointing fingers at people working poverty wages who pirate Severance because it reminds them how things could be worse.
Because I participate in piracy, I can’t admonish it. All I’m frustrated with is the way people talk about it, and the way it sometimes sounds like entitlement to other people’s work. I only really started feeling this strongly in recent years after all the AI talk, and how there is a similar entitlement at play. They have the right to everything.
I wish the discourse was better surrounding it. And less entitled and crass. That’s a narrow view on the whole landscape of the interactions that go on between people in the industry and with the consumers.
I sometimes think music streaming works in the model of every platform having almost everything, only because the volume seems to vastly out weigh movies and tv shows. But we can’t have movies and tv shows with the same model. It just doesn’t work. IMO. The prices always get high if you want it all.
Like, are books a good comparison? Those are treated differently. Can we produce tv with the same model and budgets we produce books with? And then have libraries? And sell them directly? I don’t find people who use libraries to get access similarly offputting, obviously. And they are not smug in the way I’m talking about here. More emphasis should be put on building up libraries as alternative access to all shows and movies.
I dunno. The entitlement to everything just has the vibe of a libertarian tech bro to me. This is why I’m sure to participate in both sides of the fence.
But here, I also find capitalism frustrating. So I’m hypocritical? I dunno. If tv was just art and not capitalism, and I was contributing resources for the production of said art, then things would feel better.
Anyway. I appreciate your reply. It’s better than the smug downvotes. Goodnight.
I don’t know if I agree with your specific issue here, but I do agree that there is this annoying cognitive dissonance creeping into piracy. More and more people will try to moralise their piracy and come up with all kinds of excuses to justify or even celebrate it, instead of just accepting and admitting that they do it because they don’t want to pay.
You put it well. I agree with you, and that sums up my sentiment much neater than my rambling about it. I appreciate your reply.
Is it so mysterious?
People like to spend less money rather than more money.
i downloaded all the good shows from apple tv to jellyfin so i’m good
Cool, I get mine through Apple One and that’s not changing. Otherwise I’d switch to a plan without it.
Might be time for !deapple@piefed.social
So they make too many good shows, and good shows are expensive and people claim Apple is wasting money making all this content.
So, that all means that the price is too high. They should lower it, not raise it. That’s the logic here? Or do you think the previous price was optimal for the long haul?
This isn’t exactly like Netflix. Or mismanaged like all the Discovery Warner shit.
Maybe we should be advocating for federated, community produced content instead. Right?
I understand prices going up generally sucks. But sometimes it has logic to it? I dunno. I just can’t quite square everything with how people talk about tv shows here. It reminds me that many people in the industry privately know that the whole TV industry is a broken model. It’s unsustainable, end to end across the board. Yet we demand being able to access every single bit of it, for pennies an episode.
Don’t get me wrong, I have a plex server myself. I participate on both sides of the situation. I just find people so absolutist about feeling they have the right to it all… illogical.
But yes, it’s time to remove all of Apple’s products from your life because their high quality TV offerings got a bit more expensive.
And yes, it’s crazy we debate these things on behalf of the biggest corporations in the world.
So, that all means that the price is too high. They should lower it, not raise it. That’s the logic here? Or do you think the previous price was optimal for the long haul?
Well with these products that cost the producer effectively zero for each additional sold, the optimum price for the producer, if they’re forced to charge everyone the same price (ignoring the strategy of price discrimination for now), is whatever price maximizes subscribers x price. It is probable that $5/month will get more people to subscribe, especially the type of person who tends to subscribe for a few months at a time and cancels once they’ve exhausted what they want to watch. Whether that would be enough to make up for the lower price is less clear, but they should probably model that for each price they’re considering.
Also, with price discrimination as a pricing strategy, the higher base price gives more maneuverability to try to maximize subscribers with discounts while still charging the most of the less price sensitive. And that’s what I think is going on here: using bundles and discounts (like free months of subscription with each physical Apple device you buy, or certain credit card perks where cardholders get credit from their bank for those subscriptions), and a higher base price to make those perks seem more valuable.
