(Especially considering the fact that it has ties to Israel from what I read online)

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    16 days ago

    if he can work at disney then this means you guys either live in the US, france or Japan and if you’re a communist in those countries there is bigger fish to fry than worrying about the moral consequences of selling mickey mouse shaped donuts

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      True, I just feel a bit icky about having anything to do with Israel (even indirectly), but it is probably not realistic for me to be so scared of my friend working at Disney.

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        15 days ago

        obviously i appreciate you not liking israel but i dont want u to believe that israel is the unique evil here and even without israel disney corp is not good

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    Depends what they do. If they mop the floors then no. But if they are influential to some degree then yes you are “allowed” to feel weird about it.

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      Thoughts on if they work for the MIC doing govt contracting? I see some people giving the same arguments, I ended a lot of relationships due to this and wondering if I overreacted now.

      I still despise them, especially as most of them are arabs acting as Kapos, helping drop bombs on their own countries

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        I feel like the void separating a capitalist “entertainment” conglomerate and companies quite literally building bombs and war material is a substantial enough gap to offer a little leeway. Rents gotta get paid.

        For example, working for Boeing is one thing, and if someone is building passenger airliners because that’s the only job they could get with an aerospace engineering degree that’s one thing, versus that person working in the military procurement branch designing laser guided munitions systems.

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          Otoh, the guy working for Gulfstream in the luxury personal plane division may be problematic. But what if they’re the soul income for a multigenerational household?

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            Luxury personal aircraft are such a tiny market that hounding someone like that is splitting hairs. I would say building a luxury aircraft is a far-cry from building tanks, weapons of war, surveillance equipment, police equipment, and so on.

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    I’m not gonna tell people where they should personally draw the line in their own lives, considering the relationships of dependency they can be in and so on.

    But if I were to attempt a generalization on the subject, I’d say a good litmus test for crossing a line is: In the struggles for liberation (anti-imperialism, decolonization, class struggle), is a person doing a role that directly contributes to the wrong side of it and which distinctly benefits them for doing that particular role? (ex: they are a cop working for a capitalist state, so are part of the enforcing class; they are a soldier working for an imperialist state; they work on weapons manufacturing for an imperialist state). In other words, in “class war” for example, are they helping wage war against the working class (even if they aren’t making the executive calls)?

    In this framework, simply working at an entertainment company that has some business ties to imperialism would not mean much if they are working class, considering 1) how many steps removed they are from waging imperialist war and 2) that they are generally going to be seeing the bare minimum for work put in, since they are working class. As opposed to like, if they were an executive and had a somewhat direct relationship between the imperialist deals they push for and the material benefit they see.

    That said, what about consequences of crossing such a line? Being seen as “evil”? Cutting such people out of one’s life? I think the most immediately practical takeaway is simply understanding that due to where their interests lie, they should be assumed to act like they are on the wrong side and that their position may sometimes help explain their stubbornness or apathy when hearing arguments in favor of liberation. And that if/when broader confrontation is had, it is safer to assume they will be in the way than to think you can talk them into standing aside.