In its early phases, Ukraine’s counteroffensive is having less success and Russian forces are showing more competence than western assessments expected, two western officials and a senior US military official tell CNN.
And now, if you even try to mention peace, you are Putin’s shill.
No, you don’t. You are Putin’s shill if you mention peace only at Russian conditions. I’d welcome a peace where Russia leaves the occupied territories forever and stops waging war, the people of Donbass, both of Russian ethnicity and Ukranian ethnicity, get more autonomy, Tatars can go back to Crimea, Russians can vote democratically and have independent media, talk and protest without going to jail and all in all live better.
I’m against war and if everyone just lived in peace, I’d be much much happier.
I just thik that when you put conditions on peace, as you did, and those conditions, as we all know, are not possible (true, current wagner mutiny might and hopefully will change that), you are not really in for peace talks.
There are reasons Russia acted this way, and thise reasons did not change, wether we agree with their (or better even, his reasoning) does not matter. Putin did what he was talking from 2014 he will do.
What you are talking about then it’s not called peace. It’s called appeasement. It’s what we tried in 2008 and 2014, and it’s what Chamberlain tried with Hitler in order to stop WW2 from happening.
Doesn’t work and we should stop doing it tbh. It means throwing people under the bus now to delay the inevitable war caused by the power hungry dictator, that, with every win, will feel emboldened and cause an even bigger and worse war down the line.
Putin’s plans have been clear since the 24th. He wants to conquer Ukraine and make it a puppet, like Belarus. Next target is Moldova, then Georgia and then probably Poland (although that would be a whole other can of worms). If you want to give in now, just know that this is the plan.
No, you don’t. You are Putin’s shill if you mention peace only at Russian conditions. I’d welcome a peace where Russia leaves the occupied territories forever and stops waging war, the people of Donbass, both of Russian ethnicity and Ukranian ethnicity, get more autonomy, Tatars can go back to Crimea, Russians can vote democratically and have independent media, talk and protest without going to jail and all in all live better.
I’m against war and if everyone just lived in peace, I’d be much much happier.
I just thik that when you put conditions on peace, as you did, and those conditions, as we all know, are not possible (true, current wagner mutiny might and hopefully will change that), you are not really in for peace talks.
There are reasons Russia acted this way, and thise reasons did not change, wether we agree with their (or better even, his reasoning) does not matter. Putin did what he was talking from 2014 he will do.
What you are talking about then it’s not called peace. It’s called appeasement. It’s what we tried in 2008 and 2014, and it’s what Chamberlain tried with Hitler in order to stop WW2 from happening.
Doesn’t work and we should stop doing it tbh. It means throwing people under the bus now to delay the inevitable war caused by the power hungry dictator, that, with every win, will feel emboldened and cause an even bigger and worse war down the line.
Putin’s plans have been clear since the 24th. He wants to conquer Ukraine and make it a puppet, like Belarus. Next target is Moldova, then Georgia and then probably Poland (although that would be a whole other can of worms). If you want to give in now, just know that this is the plan.