No plans really. They (members of party AfD) “JUST” had a meeting, in November, with a guy (Sellner) to make such plans. This was leaked in a journalistic research by Correctiv. Shameful and concerning as it is, they are two different things. Hopefully that Sellner is banned to enter Germany again (he’s been revoked visa to US and other countries already because of such talks). Now, my concern (personal opinion) is that other zealots (CSU, CDU) distance themselves as a ‘better’ alternative still being right extremists themselves…
Edit: To clarify, the “just” in quotes is to denote sarcasm because even if there’s a difference between planning, having a plan or implementing it, the matter at hand is very important indeed. Of course, it can’t be taken lightly. Still, is a relief that we are living the first, and not the second or third scenarios mentioned.
They‘re not just talks but thanks for clarifying. I know most of this but others might not.
Hitler did the same. They just „talked“ in the beer halls back then. This ideology needs to be banned from holding german office ever again. Even the idea to deport people based on their heritage (not their immigration status) needs to disqualify from holding public office. Actually, using heritage, blood, genes or anything to distinguish between people that can be used this way needs to be outlawed immediately.
Also, the cdu has reighned over this country for decades and although I‘m not a fan, making them the same as the fascist party (afd) is very counterproductive.
Every party needs to reflect on this and try to reach their members who are in danger of becoming fascists and educate them and definitely need to make rules that fascist ideology can never be part of any party or the government.
Also, it’s worth pointing out that some other parties may have potential of embracing fascism, but if their current stance on right extremism is a negative one and their policies and rhetoric aren’t even verging on the extremes, they probably should just be corrected for the obvious bad things and not labeled as “right extremists”. Even though some of the candidates could be called such based on things they’ve said.
I agree. Labeling everyone as fascist or right wing nut job or whatever is only going to help the real extremists hide.
The idea of taking care of home is not extreme. Distinction comes through education. If someone knows their history they can tell you what to look for. It starts with jokes, goes on to „I‘m just saying they‘re not nice people“ to „I wish they would leave“ to „lets make them leave“ and so on.
Thats why I leave if someone on the dinner table just „needs to say this“. No you dont.
I disagree with calling CDU right extremist, because the majority isn’t. Calling all conservatives right extremist erodes the meaning of the term. Now we know that parts of the CDU are (likely) right extremist, but I’d say it’s a small minority.
In a little more detail: germany has tried to conquer europe and used industrialized genocide against marginalized groups under fascist leadership.
The party in question has evidently planned to start deporting immigrants, immigrant decendants and sympathizers.
That is pretty much how it started the last time.
No plans really. They (members of party AfD) “JUST” had a meeting, in November, with a guy (Sellner) to make such plans. This was leaked in a journalistic research by Correctiv. Shameful and concerning as it is, they are two different things. Hopefully that Sellner is banned to enter Germany again (he’s been revoked visa to US and other countries already because of such talks). Now, my concern (personal opinion) is that other zealots (CSU, CDU) distance themselves as a ‘better’ alternative still being right extremists themselves…
Edit: To clarify, the “just” in quotes is to denote sarcasm because even if there’s a difference between planning, having a plan or implementing it, the matter at hand is very important indeed. Of course, it can’t be taken lightly. Still, is a relief that we are living the first, and not the second or third scenarios mentioned.
They‘re not just talks but thanks for clarifying. I know most of this but others might not.
Hitler did the same. They just „talked“ in the beer halls back then. This ideology needs to be banned from holding german office ever again. Even the idea to deport people based on their heritage (not their immigration status) needs to disqualify from holding public office. Actually, using heritage, blood, genes or anything to distinguish between people that can be used this way needs to be outlawed immediately.
Also, the cdu has reighned over this country for decades and although I‘m not a fan, making them the same as the fascist party (afd) is very counterproductive.
Every party needs to reflect on this and try to reach their members who are in danger of becoming fascists and educate them and definitely need to make rules that fascist ideology can never be part of any party or the government.
As they say „never again, is now.“
Also, it’s worth pointing out that some other parties may have potential of embracing fascism, but if their current stance on right extremism is a negative one and their policies and rhetoric aren’t even verging on the extremes, they probably should just be corrected for the obvious bad things and not labeled as “right extremists”. Even though some of the candidates could be called such based on things they’ve said.
I agree. Labeling everyone as fascist or right wing nut job or whatever is only going to help the real extremists hide.
The idea of taking care of home is not extreme. Distinction comes through education. If someone knows their history they can tell you what to look for. It starts with jokes, goes on to „I‘m just saying they‘re not nice people“ to „I wish they would leave“ to „lets make them leave“ and so on.
Thats why I leave if someone on the dinner table just „needs to say this“. No you dont.
I disagree with calling CDU right extremist, because the majority isn’t. Calling all conservatives right extremist erodes the meaning of the term. Now we know that parts of the CDU are (likely) right extremist, but I’d say it’s a small minority.