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Soviet Snake@lemmygrad.ml to GenZedong@lemmygrad.ml · 2 years ago

b-B-ut China is biggest baddie co2!1!1!!!!!

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b-B-ut China is biggest baddie co2!1!1!!!!!

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Soviet Snake@lemmygrad.ml to GenZedong@lemmygrad.ml · 2 years ago
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Source: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/consumption-co2-per-capita?time=latest

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  • 陆船。@lemmygrad.ml
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    The west offshored its emissions to China and still pollutes more. Almost impressive really.

    • JucheBot1988@lemmygrad.ml
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      It’s that “Faustian western spirit” that Richard Spenser and his ilk like to talk about so much.

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    Convenient how the individual-centric capitalist west always talk about “China emissions” as a whole while the per-capita is never mentioned.

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      Also never mentions historical emissions where it looks REALLY bad for the west.

    • Soviet Snake@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      It’s not so much the per capita part here what matter but the fact that it looks at consumption. It doesn’t matter if it pollutes more from production if the consumption of such production ends up being exported.

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        Was just about to point out the same.

  • LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.mlBanned
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    What’s going on in Mongolia?

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      A lot of coal burning if I remember correctly. They need a lot of heat in winter.

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    Went to look this up, and found this site which shows China as #1: https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-per-capita/

    …Because it’s sorting the table by net emissions, instead of capital, despite what the title suggests

    Anyways, for those interested, it’s Qatar.

    Canada, Australia, and the US are some of the worst offenders for large nations.

    • Soviet Snake@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      Because this does not list net emission but rather consumption per capita, it does not make sense to blame China for producing, since basically what happened is that the West outsourced its industrial sector to China, but the consumption of the Chinese production happens outside. So even though the US outsourced it to China, they are still the biggest polluters by consumption per capita.

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      Unless you sort by ‘per capita’, in which case China disappears down the table: https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-per-capita/

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        With the number 1 beside it

        • Soviet Snake@lemmygrad.mlOP
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          They have the #1 because the default sorting is CO2 Emissions (tons, 2016), when you change it to CO2 Emissions per capita (tons) it gets pretty low on the list but the number doesn’t seem to be affected, which is bad for visualization honestly.

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          deleted by creator

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    I honestly thought Canada would be darker red than it is considering our oil sands…

    • stilgar [he/him] @infosec.pub
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      Production “doesn’t count” for these calculations, that’s the reason Norway isn’t dark red as well.

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      It is still pretty red, but yeah, could be worse.

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        Yes it’s very red but not as dark as I’d have expected.

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          very red

          Don’t get my hopes up like that

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            I sometimes wish red didn’t have so many conflicting meanings.

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              “So how did the date go?”

              “So many red flags…”

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