• Rojo27 [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    A moment of silence for all our British comrades who are about the expirence why we don’t have free healthcare in the USliberalism

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      Don’t political parties in the UK have some sort of charter or something that could be used to keep leadership accountable to their core values or can people just hijack them for whatever purpose? Like it seems so weird to have a party called Labour actively working against the interests of the working class.

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        They literally had a purge of every member to the left of Blair during the Corbyn years. Like they weren’t even secret about it. The right wing of the party apparatus openly conspired to not just exclude left wing members of the party, but actively sabotaged the election efforts.

        The fact that it’s not only not a conspiracy theory, but is public knowledge and yet nothing has happened to these ratfuckers would drive me crazy if I could feel empathy for britoid.

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          Sounds the same as in Denmark, parties aren’t really accountable to anyone but the party leadership and since advancement inside the party is based on nepotism and ass-kissing, no-one rocks the boat too much when leadership decides to pivot.

          It’s just wild to me sometimes that there’s no real way to do something like a vote of no-confidence among rank and file members, outside of the party getting their status/funding revoked by the state on account of not receiving enough votes. (Of course the lib response is to i-voted ‘change it from the inside if you don’t like it’, but that runs into the same issue again: if the internal party structure and culture promotes sycophants and weasel behaviour, nothing will change)

          And now I realize yet again that I’m basically just rehashing what is to be done in a confused and less eloquent manner lenin-heisenberg

          Liberal politics is a fuck

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            :ultra-keir-starmer-in-a-maoist-beret: “I welcome the Starmer proposal to minecraft all the leftist elements in the party, but I call on them to go further. We must root out even the soc-dems and the lib-dems, perhaps even the slightly left of centre technocrats. Even the right-wingers in favour of modest social spending should be cast out.”

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    The liberal fascination with private/public partnerships is so odd. There’s obviously some brainworm idea that a privatized version of a service will experience market pressures to improve efficiency… but even in their ideal world where that’s true why do they think that the profit margin wouldn’t swallow up that difference, especially when they never do competitive bidding for services? The Thatcherite vision at least had the consistency of the government completely exiting the field, but the Starmerite vision seems to be the Ultimate Centrist approach of just having the worst of all worlds.

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      I’m sure you’re just giving liberal politicians too much credit by assuming that they aren’t just craven slugs, willing participants in the hollowing out of society for profit. They don’t believe things will get generally better from privatization, they believe things will get better for them specifically.

      Now why the average liberal voter believes in this shit, it’s probably just a mix of unconscious anti-communism and unexamined big-brain centrism that dictates that going to far either way would be too ‘extreme’ so a ‘mixed’ economy is by definition the best.

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      public private partnerships absolve the private of accountability. when full privatization delivers dogshit results there’s an obvious pressure to return it to the public sector, with PPP you can change all sorts of things around the margins and switch out contracts without calling the organizational scheme into question

  • Both Streeting and Starmer have publicly declared themselves as socialists in the last week. They can’t help but revel in Labour being the party to destroy the last pieces of the British welfare state. Jez, for all his flaws, still lives rent free in their heads.