• solsangraal@lemmy.zip
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          top priority is get republicans (fascists) out of power at the federal and local level. until that happens, there will be no discussion, no debate, and if they win this year, no VOTING at all. you think the genocide is bad with biden? LOL just google some of the things trump has said about how to deal with pro-palestine protesters

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            There’s nothing more Biden could’ve done to help Israel kill Palestinians than what he’s done in the past 8 months. There is physically no way that the genocide is gonna “get worse under Trump.” We’re already giving bombs and money to Israel faster that they can use them, and there is no act of depravity that will turn either the Democratic or Republican parties away from unrelenting support of the genocide.

            You want to come up with a line of reasoning that absolves you for cheerleading for genocide, but history will show that every American that voted for either one of these geriatric demons was more interested in maintaining their treats than applying pressure to their political establishment to end the genocide. You’re no better than a German cheering on the Freikorps, and asking the ghosts of the dead communists to voot against Hitler.

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                I’m simply pointing out the idiocy in you literally doing the ‘99% hitler v 100% hitler argument’

                By all means, get all self righteous and sanctimonious about people not voting for a guy who enacted a border shutdown bill, who has literally circumvented Congress to run guns to Israel, and countless other atrocities

                Let me know where that ‘lesser evilism’ gets you; you’ll be back here in four years again. Every four years.

                vote on your “principles” comrade (aka sit on your ass and don’t vote for shit)

                lmao

                I donate to groups abroad to help negate the damage your guy does while in office, and I volunteer my time to help as well. But you’re really telling on yourself here by thinking ‘voting’ is the only thing that makes a difference here. Why are you even here and not on Reddit in your insular, liberal echo chamber? You clearly are only after that.

            • GalaxyBrain [they/them]@hexbear.net
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              That’d be tight. Then I wouldn’t have to hear about American election every 2 years because your cycles last so.fucking long they neve seem to end and the result would be the same anyway

          • HelluvaBottomCarter [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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            How do you get republicans (fascists) out of power at the federal level when Democrats at the federal level are friends with many republicans (fascists), covet republican (fascist) votes, and openly advocates having a strong republican (fascist) party? You’re saying we should get rid of fascists by voting for the people who help fascism?

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        What a tepid turd of a defense for supporting genocide. Voting for genocide means you support it, by doing so you legitimise and empower Biden to ignore calls for action. Giving your vote unconditionally is bad bargaining.

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        I don’t know what you said but whatever it was if you vote for either of these people you ARE endorsing genocide.

        Every single death that happens after this vote, you voted for. You knew what they would do and you endorsed it, you gave them a mandate for it.

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        So you’re saying the Democratic Party will openly support Trump’s Gaza policy, and the media, and the EU, they’re all gonna fall behind Trump and sing his praises as he bombs Gaza, is that seriously your claim?