Personally, Gaza and his anti-railway workers union action was enough to destroy any credibility he had so far.

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          You can tell yourself that you’re voting left but the Overton Window still shifts right. Look at immigration. Look at the courts. Roe. It’s taking a hard right with the “left” candidate already in office.

          If it’s going to go right either way, then focus your efforts on something else.

          The change that I make might not “do anything”, but I am not going to just punch in Team Blue and then sit back and blame things on other people not voting the way you think they should have voted. That’s not doing anything at all.

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      Biden has personally done more to shift the window to the right than any other living person, the only other figure from the 20th century who even comes close was Reagan and Biden is to Reagan’s right on a lot of things

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      Strategic voting doesn’t work though. A representative democracy only functions if you vote for someone you believe represents you, not if you vote for whoever least doesn’t. If you do that, you get the choice between genocide and “genocide >:)”
      This text is from 1972 and the arguments for strategic voting are the then as it was now. Even back then these arguments were seen as very obviously flawed.

      “One more election bro, I swear just one more. One more and then you can vote for a leftist, I promise! We just have to beat [villain of the week]” This was trotted out for Trump, Romney (binders full of women crazy Mormon), Cheney (old man crazy racist), Bush (dubya), Dole (I don’t even know how they managed it with this dud of a dude), Bush (senior), Reagan and then some. If strategic voting worked, we’d have seen the results a long time ago.

      Your calculus is simple, and you still get it wrong. You don’t push the democrats left by voting for them unconditionally, that just pushes republicans further right (and then the Dems follow, because they’re right wing and have no votes to lose as long as rubes like you do this shit). You push them left by voting for a leftist party. “Ohhh then my vote is wasted!” If you don’t think your vote is wasted on a genocidal dementia patient, then your brain has been replaced by a portobello. Also, to paraphrase one of your ilk from last election, they’re electable if you fucking vote for them

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      Heh, it’s just a simple calculus for me. I vote for the liberals to stop the conservatives and move the overton window left, the liberals prop up the farthest-right conservatives in the next election and keep everything in limbo so of course I have to vote for the liberals again as their politics get worse, then we’ll see what happens but I got a good feeling; really it’s just me doing my part. A “thank you“ would be nice, but I’m not in it for the glory.