• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Obviously you must think that it’s better to make sure hundreds of thousands of people die and millions more have their lives ruined before giving everything to Russia. If Ukraine simply accepted neutrality before the war and implemented Minsk, then it would’ve kept all its territory. Then Ukraine could’ve settled the war back in March last year, but US and UK said no. Now, Ukraine has lost 20% of its territory, and will likely lose a lot more. Yet, the final outcome is going to be the same. Even western propagandists stopped talking about Ukrainian victory at this point.

    And imagine being the kind of absolute psycho who thinks that it’s better for billions of people to die in a nuclear holocaust than for Russia to win in Ukraine. These are the kinds of psychopaths we have here.

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        1 year ago

        That’s a fallacious argument based on a false premise. Russia has always been clear that their concern has been NATO expansion. Ukraine would have lost none of its territory had it chose to remain neutral.

        Furthermore, plenty of western experts warned about this literally for decades, yet those concerns were ignored.

        Meanwhile, it’s kind of funny of you to talk about setting some sort of precedent when the west has set it a long time ago.

        Western nations have invaded Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria just to name a few. This was done unilaterally without UN authorization. In fact, Russian playbook in Ukraine is directly modeled on what NATO did in Yugoslavia where they recognized breakaway regions and had them invite NATO for support.

        What you’re essentially saying here is that it’s fine for the west to do these things, but we should bring the world to a brink of a nuclear holocaust when other countries do the same.

        The reality is that the west has no moral high ground here unless western countries change their own behavior.

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      1 year ago

      Who let the Orcs in? There’s something obvious here, but it’s not Russian victory.

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        1 year ago

        Just say what you mean, “asiatic hordes”

        Christ the open racism that the reddit migration has brought in is disgusting.

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            1 year ago

            Are you having a stroke or trying to talk in code? I just read some other text so I know I’m not having a stroke.