For context this from a “leftist” group chat where there was buncha discussion about the growing hepatitis and possible polio in gaza. The person who typed it “got heart diseases from the bill gates vaccines” and this was their claim that hepatitis incidence is fake and bill gates conspiracy to give vaccines to gaza.

  • Red_sun_in_the_sky [any]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
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    3 months ago

    Oh yeah. They kept claiming wild shit about hepatitis and polio. Then kept telling what they wrote was completely fine and I’m just a rude person that cannot read. Then were referring to how sophisticated they are for doing post grad in some usa university.

    I asked em that I have done post grad too but who gives a shit. Then they replied to me with jargon to say I’m not a person who even knows basics.

    I did elaborate but that doesn’t matter that’s some generic shit. But its very annoying to be like “I’m a genius doctor virologist and do you even know these terms”. I can do that too.

    That doesn’t make any racist shit more valid.

    • Soviet Pigeon@lemmygrad.ml
      3·
      3 months ago

      Thats some ad hominem shit. I guess there even is a Wikipedia Article about that. I am usually not a person who throws those explanations about fallacies in a conversation, but this is a exception.

      People which believe in esoteric or in consperative theories are using as hominem stuff a lot.

      Your opinion is invalid, because you are a jew, woman, muslim, black, from Asia or because you are not an expert. The examples I mentioned are chauvinistic, bit they don’t have to be.

      That you have to be a Prof. Dr. Dr. Dr. Of something to be able to argue, is not right. Tbh at this point I would probably point out, that this kind of argument is illogical and a fallacy. And then leave it be. They probably just don’t know how to counter your arguments and rather continue pretending that your argument is invalid because your didn’t visit some school in burgerland.

      • Red_sun_in_the_sky [any]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
        2·
        3 months ago

        Yeah. They did it cause I spoke about their weird vaccine beliefs. And called them dumb.

        They didn’t argue. They just said I’m a rude person who can’t type sophisticated ways without cursing.

        The group was more offended over me even asking that. They were claiming I was being very acrimonious and bringing disunity. Not the racist person.