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The site producing the nonsense has to produce lots of it any time a bot comes along, the trainers only have to filter it once. As others have pointed out it’s likely easy for an automated filter to spot. I don’t see it as being a clear win.

It’s a blow to the big closed-source AI companies, sure, but hardly a knockout one. If a small company can use a million dollars to produce a neat model perhaps a big company can use those same techniques and a billion dollars to produce a really neat model. Or at least build a lot more of the infrastructure that goes around those models and makes use of them. Code Copilot isn’t just selling a raw LLM API, they’re selling its integration into the Microsoft coding ecosystem. They may have wasted some money on their current-generation AIs but that’s just sunk cost. They’ve got more money to spend on future AIs.

The main problem will be if Western AI companies are prevented from adapting the techniques being used by these Chinese AI companies. If, for example, there are lots of onerous regulations on what training data can be used or requiring extreme “safety guardrails.” The United States seems likely to be getting rid of a lot of those sorts of obstructions over the next few years, though, so I wouldn’t count the West out yet.

I think it was the 1B model

Well there you go, you took a jet ski and then complained that it was having difficulty climbing steep inclines in mountains.

Small models like that are not going to “know” much. Their purpose is generally to process whatever information you give them. For example you could use one to quickly and cheaply categorize documents based on their contents, or use one as a natural-language interface you could use to ask it to execute commands on other tools.

I’d be happy with it. It means that the universe is ours for the taking and the future will belong to our descendants.

If there are already intelligent aliens “out there” then they’ve got millions or billions of years’ head start on us and we’ll never catch up, we’d be completely at their mercy.

No, a few million hits from bots is routine for anything that’s facing the public at all. Others have posted on this thread (or others like it, this article’s been making the rounds a lot in the past few days) that even the most basic of sites can get that sort of bot traffic, and that it’s just a simple recursion depth limit setting to avoid the “infinite maze” aspect.

As for AI training, the access log says nothing about that. As I said, AI training sets are not made by just dumping giant piles of randomly scraped text on AIs any more. If a trainer scraped one of those “infinite maze” sites the quality of the resulting data would be checked, and if it was generated by anything remotely economical for the site to be running it’d almost certainly be discarded as junk.

A standard method for indicating to web-crawlers what pages they should read and which they should skip.

An even easier way to hide stuff is to not put it online in the first place.

A bot that’s ignoring robots.txt is likely going to be pretending to be human. If your site has valuable content that you want to show to humans, how do you distinguish them from the bots?

Indeed. And any modern AI training system is going to be extensively curating any training data that ends up being fed into the AI, probably processing it through other AIs to generate synthetic data from it. The days of early ChatGPT where LLMs were trained by just dumping giant piles of random text on them and hoping it’ll figure it out somehow are long past.

This reminds me of Nightshade, the supposed anti-art-AI technique that could be defeated by resizing the image (which all art AI training systems do as a matter of course). It may make people “feel better” but it’s not going to have any real impact on anything.

Well, I have to admit to being pleasantly and genuinely surprised. I was ready to just dismiss all my notifications unread on this thread. I’m not used to any Internet arguments going this way, let alone ones about Musk or American politics. Thanks. Although this does mean that now I’ve been fed a little bit of hope to keep me going in the pursuit of thankless truths, when I could have just quit, so maybe it’s a mixed bit of gratitude. :)

Elon Musk is, indeed, a giant tool. Even back in the days before he got overtly political it was clear that he was socially malajusted, and unfortunately it seems like buying Twitter was somewhat of a turning point for him - he fell completely off a cliff after that. I really wish he’d just stuck to building those various companies of his because I really do like the results of his work, in a “von Braun was good for the American space program” sort of way. I don’t imagine his current trajectory is going to end well and I hope he at least gets Starship flying routinely before he goes Howard Hughes.

Depends. Do you believe in freedom of speech and freedom of opinion? Do you want the Fediverse to be an open, decentralized protocol?

Historically, it seems that the same characteristics that make people colossal douchebags also help make them successful businessmen. There was a study a few years back that showed a lot of CEOs were psychopaths, for example. Being willing to take advantage of people and having a driven workaholic personality helps people climb that corporate ladder.

Again, a technically true statement. His family was fairly wealthy, on average. But Musk did not start out millionaire wealthy. His father gave Elon (and his brother Kimbal jointly) $28,000 in seed money for his first company. Everything from there was Musk building companies and selling them to climb the wealth rankings.

But none of that matters, clearly. We’re in a post-truth period where all that matters is whether I’m hating the right people, and hate doesn’t require truth. Indeed, it’s usually incompatible with it. I hate Elon Musk personally, I think he’s a terrible human being and Trump is the worst president America has ever had, but because I didn’t jump right in on the inaccurate “and also Elon didn’t even accomplish anything on his own, he just bought everything with his giant piles of inherited apartheid emeralds!” narrative I get the downvotes. I didn’t yell loudly enough along with the mob at the five-minutes hate, so I must be a full-blown conservative Nazi too.

So I’ll give everyone what they want to hear, I guess. I heard Elon Musk loves to kill kittens. He walks right up to them, grabs them by the tail, and whips their skin right off before they even know what’s happening. Puppies, too. Also he doesn’t really launch rockets with SpaceX, they’re aluminium foil balloons filled with hydrogen. That’s why they explode sometimes, hydrogen balloons just do that.

Technically, sure. But it was founded in July 2003, Musk bought in on February 2004, and it shipped its first car in 2012. So there wasn’t much he wasn’t involved with.

Why can’t a person be both a successful businessman and a colossal douchebag? Isn’t “he’s a terrible human being” sufficient? I would think that should be.

One major thing holding the Democrats back from this is that the Democrats still haven’t had it beaten into their skulls that the rules of politics are dead, dead, dead. They still seem to think that decorum matters and that if they just sigh and accept the Republicans’ actions now they’ll eventually get their turn later.

This sort of thing has been a strategy for dealing with unwanted web crawlers since web crawlers were a thing. It’s an arms race, though; crawlers do things to detect these “mazes” and so the maze-makers keep needing to up their game as well.

As we enter an age where AI is effectively passing the Turing Test, it’s going to be tricky making traps for them that don’t also ensnare the actual humans you’re trying to serve pages to.

It’s rare but possible. Basically, the piece of the Y chromosome that hosts the SRY gene can wind up swapped onto a different chromosome and still work its magic. You really only need that one single gene to trigger the whole cascade of development that makes a person male.

I think another interpretation of Trump’s order is that nobody is female, since no embryos are capable of producing the “large reproductive cell” at conception. At conception they’re just a single cell, they aren’t producing any reproductive cells yet. That’s not until quite a while later in development.

Why do i want a copy of something I am only going to watch once?

Delete it when you’re done if you never want to watch it again.

And why should I keep a copy if I can just stream it again from the same or some different site for free in the future?

I thought you just said you wouldn’t want to watch it again?

Obviously there are people who do watch pirate streams. I’m just pointing out how odd it is in the context of this thread, where people are complaining about dependency on outside resources, and how alien it is to my personal approach to this kind of thing.

It really baffles me when I hear about “pirate streaming sites” being taken down. Why are those even a thing? If you’re into piracy already, why not download a copy?

I criticize both the DNC and the American voters.

However, one of those things is much more capable of short-term change than the other. So criticism of that thing is much more valuable in the short term than criticism of the other.