Graphite22 [he/him, comrade/them]

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Cake day: July 26th, 2020

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  • I think I understand what you’re saying. lmk if this sounds close lol

    Assuming we’re talking about fiction made in America, I think there is a “death roll” approach about how we come up with it in the first place. Start at a base genre of fiction, then just slap whatever weird genre tags you feel like because it -might- make sense later. We end up reading these blobs of fiction with no direction and no root in something “real” because genre intertwining is a difficult task. Everything gets lost when different types of fiction mash together and you end up having nothing while having “everything”.

    Hauntology is no exception and is definitely part of that “death roll” approach, especially as a secondary genre but barely as a primary genre. It also became a niche little part of “American Lore” so to speak because it may have been profitable at one time or maybe it still is(?). Taking these two things into account, you have authors slapping genres together and tacking on hauntology to create specific feelings but it always falls flat. Integrating such themes from that genre needs to have a grounded basis in order to justify the haunting. A lot of fiction just mentions souls, spirituality and more but then leave it at that. There is no deeper meaning but it sells. Having hauntology in the background of fiction in this manner gives readers a strange sense of comfort that terminates thoughts and the need to find more understanding.

    So why do Americans like this shit, in this form? There are two things that come to my head. One is the desire to create American “lore” from the past. The second is that Americans only accept things as “good” if it makes money. Creating American lore is white supremacist as a foundation, it’s fake as shit and has no culture. What a better way to learn the lessons of the past and create lore by watching 3 dude bros flail around on a Civil War battleground listening to noises that they recorded in production. Those soldiers taught us a lesson and that’s our culture! Meanwhile, “voodoo” is big, bad, and scary because the slaves wanted to inflict suffering on their oppressors. Now wouldn’t that be a scary thought?!?! Why do they want American “Lore” to suffer? We learned lessons from those soldier ghosts!!

    My second point comes into play when TV shows and movies try to build this shit up. Both of those things are extremely profitable and it just begs to be created over and over again. If you can beat other real cultures into a consumable, digital paste of slop, then you can most definitely build a new lore structure off the remains. There are so many pieces of fiction in our overall media that desperately tries to add spirituality into a vessel that wants to destroy. It’s been proven to make money and it serves its secondary purpose of hurting other cultures.

    I think I’m rambling at this point too

    TL;DR Culture appropriation = destruction and this applies to fiction and ESPECIALLY hauntology.

    I really hope some more thoughtful posters can poke holes in what I wrote because I’m way more interested in this topic then I ever thought I could be and I want to learn more lmao



  • I don’t need military service to find all of those benefits as a man. I didn’t need to find them when I was a young man either. Those things exist already. Capitalism has all the incentives to analyze community building, isolate portions of said communites and sell it back to you. Military service is one of those “solutions” to a problem being created by that very concept I described. Young people are being sold isolation for a cheap, yet heavy price.

    Also it’s extremely ignorant and frankly childish to assume that a military (such as the US Empire’s) isn’t causing death and destruction at all because it isn’t “officially” at war. These young adults absolutely shouldn’t bond over drone striking children just because the US Empire needs blood.

    Conscription is a dogshit concept. There are no benefits just profit.