I couldn’t agree more. This is another aspect of it. Puberty blockers are an artificially induced delay (by a pharmaceutical means that is well studied/established in precocious puberty cases) because of not trusting trans adolescents gender expression, not because they are accepting it, let alone accepting it blindly. Puberty blockers were originally intended to give time to a pre-adolescent to desist being trans. The argument is simple, puberty blockers are not gender affirming care because no sex hormones are administered. The fact that puberty blockers have been framed as gender affirming care is a success of the Republican propaganda apparatus, and there is little we can do about it now, because conservatives have already moved the goalposts. They already have established that even talking about this direction as viable to a minor is demonic, and they will soon outlaw it too.

I am not subscribing to this bullshit, and I am sad my comment enabled you to spew it out. “Me too” was a valid and necessary movement to combat sexual assaults that were institutionalized in many industries and protected by law enforcement and judicial authorities. Many prominent figures went rightfully to jail for sex crimes, and the proportion of women lying about it is rather small to make a political argument off it. Tracing back “liberal-themed supremacy movements” to Jewish supremacism sounds to me quite close to Nazi conspiracy theory, to take any of this seriously. I am sorry this reached my feed, and I can’t wait to engage the likes of you in combat.

That is a total misreading of what I said. I am scarred by the historical fact that the Holocaust happened. If you are literate at all you can see what I am saying about a specific photo. You want to hunt Holocaust deniers? Go after JK Rowling instead. LOL

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Then someone should correct the Wikipedia statement instead.

Stable diffusion? Self-hosted image generative AI?

I’m just figuring it out in my 30s

I understand this. I did not advocate for the “true trans” theory. I point out that it is used for gatekeeping. All those people coming out in their 30s and 40s are valid as well. Some may have been consciously closeting themselves, others might have been misled by extreme gender normalization. I think some might also have overcompensated, like Chelsea Manning said she joined the military to overcompensate being trans.

There are people who were dragged to psychiatrists like Kenneth Zucker: he and his PhD students used to publish and review tens of studies with GNC kids and present statistics of “persisters” and “desisters”.

The sample sizes of these studies were typically in the hundreds. Who knows how many of those kids were subjected to some kind of conversion therapy? Many come out now and say they had been talked out of it by doctors and others. The figures alone speak of the real volume of GNC expression in childhood.

(This is not to mean that every GNC child is trans. This simply isn’t true. But some are!)

There are also people who have fallen prey to the homosexual transexual / AGP gatekeeping, and have themselves thought they weren’t “true trans”, like the guy in the transfem literature novel Nevada.

But who is counting? Republicans have moved the goal posts of this discussion to a degree that to the average person it just sound insane to “push hormones and surgery onto a kid” because they played with a doll like once or sth. They say that this could not be happening if the Democrats were not evil lizard people and so powerful that medical organizations parrot their insane talking points.

So there is that. To sum up, I am making a list of the above reasons a person possibly does not realize/come out as early as psychologists say gender identity is formed:

• behavior normalization efforts from the parents
• psychiatric intervention in childhood
• self gatekeeping
• overcompensation
• knowing but being closeted because of averse reactions of parents/peers to GNC behavior, anticipation of averse social outcomes ^[1]
• outright conversion intervention
• denial
• not having realized due to lack of representation, lack of a conceptual framework, or overly negative representation of trans people ^[2]

Sure it isn’t. Let’s review this when the state does the same thing lol.

Is this why we should not delegate the control of hate speech to the state, because it will always blow up in our faces?

This might be out of context for the article, but once we are in /c/technology get this: GIMP is a slur, and their slogan during startup is “we glitch because we twitch” which makes me want to kick them in the nuts every time I use the fucking software.

I was under the impression that the Sonderkommando photographs were the only ones depicting the actual murders and cremation of the bodies. At least that is what Wikipedia says https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderkommando_photographs#cite_note-3 unless it refers to Auschwitz II specifically.

Does anyone know the camp and year of this photo?

I am sorry that people have to choose the lesser of two evils, yet here we are.

Sure, ok, just don’t fool yourself thinking the place is safe. Transgender people have been targeted with all the hate right enough, but things are not as chill for gay people as they used to be either.

it is human experimentation

No it is not. It is a well thought out medical intervention, with extensively studied effects, and life saving outcomes for trans youth.

For the most part of this video Vaush debunks every argument that puberty blockers are an experimental treatment https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=HhYruaFZEOI

American Psychological Organization about young transgender people https://www.apa.org/monitor/2022/07/advocating-transgender-nonbinary-youths

Or do you think trans people just pop out of thin air as fully grown adults? You understand that trans people once were kids like everybody else right? And finally have you ever spoken to a transgender person and ask what it is like growing up trans? All these ignorant morons fearmonger like this therapy is pushed onto unknowing kids and parents, presented like it is a cool video game. Guess what, people actively seek this therapy for their kids or themselves because they know what it is doing, it stops unwanted sexual features to develop, and it is reversible.

What was your problem again?

Are you sure about the UK squid? Wasn’t there a huge ordeal there for not extending the conversion therapy ban to transgender care? That’s what I had read.

Like gender identity interacts with the chemistry of the drug somehow? Is it safe if the kid is cis and it is not when the kid is trans? Is there some (well) materialism in gender identity or is this philosophical dualism of some sort?

The prescribed use is to suppress the development of sex features by blocking sex hormones, so how is it different?

This is just fear mongering.

And they also say nothing about

circumcision

intersex infant normalization surgeries

ongoing breast enhancement surgeries for cis girls

Republicans did not ban those, nor they did minor marriages, but I will keep to the surgery related arguments.

At the same time, puberty blockers for cis kids with precocious puberty goes on as before. They only designate the transgender use as “off-license” with unknown long term side-effects.

How the fuck gender identity is supposed to interact with the exact same drug? This is pure hokum.

But you know the problem is that only you and me will read that. Vast majority of people are spoonfed transphobic propaganda from TERFs and Xitter. It is sickening how hard it is to get those simple talk points across nowadays.

Here, from 16:15 onward Vaush (I don’t vouch for the guy BTW) disects an way earlier article poisoned with the flawed logic about puberty blockers https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=HhYruaFZEOI Just for people curious for how long this disinformation has been going on.

Republicans just want this fact suppressed. Everywhere you look, puberty blockers are presented as bad as genital surgery. They want to make it sound scary and overly artificial, like “toxic levels of hormones to go against the grain of the natural process”. This part they don’t actually say out loud but it is implied. Every outlet that fails to make clear that puberty blockers is a well established intervention for cis and trans kids alike, they are part of the TERF propaganda apparatus right enough.