• m_f@discuss.onlineEnglish
    498·
    15 hours ago

    DNS is neoliberalism incarnate 😂

    DNS is the most neoliberal shit system that too many have just accepted as how computers work and always worked to the point where I have heard actual landlord arguments deployed to defend it

    • Dojan@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 hours ago

      I mean unlike housing, you don’t actually need to pay for a domain name. There are plenty of free alternatives if you ill like paying for a TLD, and in lieu of that you could just memorise the IP, or even instruct people to change their hosts file.

    • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catEnglish
      564·
      15 hours ago

      I like how a whole community of academics and researchers worked out how to run a system which, even into the modern day which is kind of amazing, is largely disconnected from being abused by government and industry, and just runs according to what the people who need to use the system need it to do. You can get extorted for a fancy domain name if you really want to, but you can also go to Hostinger and get one for $5/year or something, because a lot of the core of the system is still pretty well-protected from being a cash-grab, through application of good governance and cooperation.

      And then, somehow Hexbear managed to find their way around that system and fucked things up for themselves, and now it’s all DNS’s fault that they stepped in a pile of doo doo.

      Never forget the architects of the internet were some of the vilest US MIC and Silicon Valley ghouls who ever lived and they are still in control fundamentally no matter how much ICANN and IANA claim to be non-partison, neutral, non-political, accountable, democratic, international, stewardshipismists

      Yes, John Postel and David Mills were some of the vilest ghouls and so on. There was nothing about them that could provide a good model for how to do effective cooperation and succeed outside the systems of ownership that defined computing and telecommunications at the time, no particular reason they succeeded so dramatically and gave you, ultimately, this space to post pig balls today, and nothing about their work and traditions that needs to be defended against any silicon valley ghouls in the modern day. You fucking dingbat. I started out sticking up for you guys because no one deserves to get victimized by DNS scammers, but I take it back, go fuck yourselves.

      • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
        3·
        6 hours ago

        Well, Postel has been dead since 1998 and Mills since 2010, so I don’t think they’re included in people still in control. So they’ve got that going for them, which is nice, I guess.

        • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catEnglish
          3·
          6 hours ago

          Architects of the internet, they said.

          If they said the people currently in charge of the internet are an uneasy alliance of shadowy goons and idiots, afraid to openly break anything too irrevocably but occasionally trying to yank on the wires to see if there isn’t some way a little more money inside them somewhere, I would generally agree.

    • NaibofTabr@infosec.pubEnglish
      144·
      15 hours ago

      I mean… OK then just remember the IP addresses of the sites you use and don’t use the domain names?

      • TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org
        122·
        14 hours ago

        That will be a problem for sites that are all hosted on one IP address where the server figures out what site you want by the client’s request string.

            • partial_accumen@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              7 hours ago

              Thats because of how you set it up. If you want individual IP addresses for all your resources, you can get a huge chunk of IPv6 addresses just for yourself. You can get a /48 (65,536) addresses if you set it up with your ISP.

          • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
            4·
            13 hours ago

            It is.

            Of course there are alternatives if you give up using the host header, like routing by URL. But that’s difficult when the URL is encrypted, meaning SSL has to be terminated at the proxy.

        • NaibofTabr@infosec.pubEnglish
          1·
          7 hours ago

          See? If you don’t like DNS, you don’t have to use DNS, it’s not so hard.

          And IPv6 won’t be that much harder, it’s only… uh… 32 hex digits you’ll have to remember, for each website. No big deal.

          • aeshna_cyanea@lemm.eeEnglish
            2·
            5 hours ago

            Did you know we have these things called computer files that can store information. There’s even one in your router specifically for storing IP addresses

            • NaibofTabr@infosec.pubEnglish
              1·
              3 hours ago

              Ah, you’re right, I should just look up IP addresses in my NAT table. Maybe I should add comments to it so I know which IP is which.

        • infeeeee@lemm.eeEnglish
          3·
          12 hours ago

          30 years ago we had to remember phone numbers, now ip addresses. We are going in circles.