A quick guide to all the insanity behind the Trump administration

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      Google the following:

      “Mencius Moldbug” and “Butterfly Revolution”.

      But to summarize it all: Gothic MAGA is basically about destroying America as we know it, government and all. Dissolve the borders and reform the nation as thousands of small countries called “network states”. These “network states” would be owned and controlled entirely by oligarchs, and would compete for citizens the way corporations compete for customers. By necessity, the oligarchs will have total control within their borders. Massive, omnipresent surveillance apparatus to watch and control their citizen customer/workers, but if you don’t like how one network state is oppressing you, you’re free to leave.(Provided of course, the brutal tyrant doesn’t have a rule saying you can’t leave unless it’s in a body bag.) At least, that’s how Curtis Yarvin(aka Mencius Moldbug) puts it. And because he’s also a racist far-right POS, he’s also a eugenicist and thinks because he’s got such a high IQ that naturally he and other high IQ individuals should be in charge. The POTUS would be more like a CEO who works on behalf of the oligarchy, who would be the country’s Board of Directors.

      It’s a lot like the early “seasteading” movement, but repackaged because not everyone wants to live at sea.

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        the ancaps reinvented archalelagic confederation but vastly worse and thoroughly corporatist

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          They basically looked at the entirety of the cyberpunk genre and misunderstood it entirely. They want to be “cool”. Like, pretty much everything Musk does is to get you to like him.

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        That’s a lot more than I got from it. I saw it came from musk wearing a dark color MAGA hat with gothic font on it while he rambled on about his shitty understanding of how government should work.

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          So, Behind the Bastards did a special on Curtis Yarvin (aka Mencius Moldbug) and his “Butterfly Revolution” that’s really good. One of my favorite takeaways was that this guy definitely got the everloving shit bullied out of him as a kid. However, like most incels he refused to believe that he was the problem. Coming from a background of privilege and wealth, he believed it made him naturally superior to everyone else. It certainly didn’t help that his IQ got him recognized by John Hopkins University, and he was selected for a study on “mathematically precocious children”. He was an early adopter of the Internet when he went to college, back when it was Web 1.0. He would post and congregate with other individuals like him on Usenet, before the Eternal September happened.

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    Was this created by someone who doesn’t understand the concept of a Venn diagram? I thought it was supposed to be one (despite not being complete), but I can’t see how the items in any given circle should be grouped with each other any more than any other label in the diagram.

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    Calling them “right-wing anarchists” instead of anarcho-capitalists or neoliberals is giving them too much credit imo :P

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      This is fair. Anarcho capitalism is an astro turf campaign, funded by Koch brothers, to create anti tax republicans. NAP is a recipe for war, not peace.

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          Mafias/militia memberships protect capital, if the magical fairy principle of do not steal/aggress is insufficient. You get to choose the kindest mafia to protect you

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    “Right-wing anarchists” makes me wanna puke. I think libertarian freestaters is probably a more accurate name.

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      Anarcho-capitalists have been around for a long time. I think they usually call themselves libertarian.

      I get the hypocrisy, but they don’t.

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        Anarcho-capitalists have been around for a long time.

        Not relative to anarchism. “Anarcho-capitalism” is a very recent recuperation/oxymoron of an ideology that has been anti-capitalist from inception. They’ll try to recuperate people from the 1800s or whatever but that’s just more nonsense.

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          Hypocrisy, like I said. I know it’s an oxymoron, you know it’s an oxymoron, but that doesn’t stop them from co-opting the term and confusing people.

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      Maybe “Societal Collapse Accelerationists” would have been more clear. But accelerationist is the key word here.

      I wanted to make it clear I was not talking about Marxist Accelerationism (the OG)

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      Basically this:

      I was shooting heroin and reading “The Fountainhead” in the front seat of my privately owned police cruiser when a call came in. I put a quarter in the radio to activate it. It was the chief.

      “Bad news, detective. We got a situation.”

      “What? Is the mayor trying to ban trans fats again?”

      “Worse. Somebody just stole four hundred and forty-seven million dollars’ worth of bitcoins.”

      The heroin needle practically fell out of my arm. “What kind of monster would do something like that? Bitcoins are the ultimate currency: virtual, anonymous, stateless. They represent true economic freedom, not subject to arbitrary manipulation by any government. Do we have any leads?”

      “Not yet. But mark my words: we’re going to figure out who did this and we’re going to take them down … provided someone pays us a fair market rate to do so.”

      “Easy, chief,” I said. “Any rate the market offers is, by definition, fair.”

      He laughed. “That’s why you’re the best I got, Lisowski. Now you get out there and find those bitcoins.”

      “Don’t worry,” I said. “I’m on it.”

      I put a quarter in the siren. Ten minutes later, I was on the scene. It was a normal office building, strangled on all sides by public sidewalks. I hopped over them and went inside.

      “Home Depot™ Presents the Police!®” I said, flashing my badge and my gun and a small picture of Ron Paul. “Nobody move unless you want to!” They didn’t.

      “Now, which one of you punks is going to pay me to investigate this crime?” No one spoke up.

      “Come on,” I said. “Don’t you all understand that the protection of private property is the foundation of all personal liberty?”

      It didn’t seem like they did.

      “Seriously, guys. Without a strong economic motivator, I’m just going to stand here and not solve this case. Cash is fine, but I prefer being paid in gold bullion or autographed Penn Jillette posters.”

      Nothing. These people were stonewalling me. It almost seemed like they didn’t care that a fortune in computer money invented to buy drugs was missing.

      I figured I could wait them out. I lit several cigarettes indoors. A pregnant lady coughed, and I told her that secondhand smoke is a myth. Just then, a man in glasses made a break for it.

      “Subway™ Eat Fresh and Freeze, Scumbag!®” I yelled.

      Too late. He was already out the front door. I went after him.

      “Stop right there!” I yelled as I ran. He was faster than me because I always try to avoid stepping on public sidewalks. Our country needs a private-sidewalk voucher system, but, thanks to the incestuous interplay between our corrupt federal government and the public-sidewalk lobby, it will never happen.

      I was losing him. “Listen, I’ll pay you to stop!” I yelled. “What would you consider an appropriate price point for stopping? I’ll offer you a thirteenth of an ounce of gold and a gently worn ‘Bob Barr ‘08’ extra-large long-sleeved men’s T-shirt!”

      He turned. In his hand was a revolver that the Constitution said he had every right to own. He fired at me and missed. I pulled my own gun, put a quarter in it, and fired back. The bullet lodged in a U.S.P.S. mailbox less than a foot from his head. I shot the mailbox again, on purpose.

      “All right, all right!” the man yelled, throwing down his weapon. “I give up, cop! I confess: I took the bitcoins.”

      “Why’d you do it?” I asked, as I slapped a pair of Oikos™ Greek Yogurt Presents Handcuffs® on the guy.

      “Because I was afraid.”

      “Afraid?”

      “Afraid of an economic future free from the pernicious meddling of central bankers,” he said. “I’m a central banker.”

      I wanted to coldcock the guy. Years ago, a central banker killed my partner. Instead, I shook my head.

      “Let this be a message to all your central-banker friends out on the street,” I said. “No matter how many bitcoins you steal, you’ll never take away the dream of an open society based on the principles of personal and economic freedom.”

      He nodded, because he knew I was right. Then he swiped his credit card to pay me for arresting him.

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      They are anarcho-capitalists, ancaps, in the vein of the Mises Institute / Austrian Economics crowd.

      A fundamental part of their ideology is praxeology, which basically is anti-empiricist, it doesn’t actually respect or react to evidence, it is wholly based on complex thought expieriments and finangling over definitions of terms.

      Basically, they believe that no government or state can be legitimate… that is shared or similar with many other actual anarchists…

      But they believe it should be replaced with either giant megacorporations, or somehow, something would cause a ‘free market’ for competing over public goods and utilities, some even believe in competing theoretical private legal systems that would … somehow interface and interperet ‘the law’, even though there is no ‘the law’.

      It is an internally inconsistent and often easily empirically proven false worldview… but they don’t respect empirical evidence.

      They only call it ‘anarcho’ because it wants to destroy the state.

      They appropriated the term anarchism.

      But other than that, it shares basically nothing else in common with any other notable thinker or group that has called themselves anarchist.

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      The guy from Bioshock that built Rapture. You are free to do anything as long as you have the money to do so.

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      Fictitious. Hierarchy is THE defining feature of the right wing. The further right you go, the more concentrated the wealth and power becomes, until at the terminus there is a single person who has all of it.

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      It’s not a thing, excepting people who don’t know the meaning of the word.

      Anarchism is about deconstruction of social hierarchies. This is completely incompatible with all right-wing movements which are fundamentally about strengthening some or all of them.

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            They want to more or less end the government, what else would you call them? Sorry, but anarchists come in a variety of flavors

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              They want to replace the government with capitalist business. That is not anarchy; it’s a different form of hierarchy. Those two words are opposites.

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              First, no, actually most right-libertarians do not oppose the existence of the nation-state, they just think it should be more limited than it currently is—often in favor of strong state government, which anarchists also oppose.

              But again, anarchism is about opposition to all social hierarchies, not just the state. So this includes racial hierarchies, patriarchy, class stratification, and most importantly for this discussion, capitalism. Right-libertarians are pro-capitalist, and they are generally not opposed to several of the other hierarchies I mentioned.

              Beyond both being at least somewhat skeptical of state power, there is little agreement between the two ideologies.

              Also, I would argue that MAGA’s emphasis on executive power is incompatible with even right-libertarians, so it’s not really possible to support trump and be a libertarian unless you are profoundly ignorant or your commitment to libertarianism is completely performative.

              So the bottom part of this meme just doesn’t make any sense at all.

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                Agree 100% but wanna add that some right wing libertarians like to glob on to the A because they fashion themselves as chaotic or watched V for Vendetta one time and now have Batman complexes. Obviously they are completely ignorant of anarchist philosophy. I think the OP is similarly ignorant here (sorry OP, not meaning that as a slight against you – most people think anarchy just means no government or chaos or whatever)

                Edit: oh yeah, as others have mentioned there are also ancaps, which are oxymoronic but I’m sure they don’t really care

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                  Yeah I get that there are right-wing people who call themselves anarchists, and some who are called this by others like OP.

                  The problem is that none of these people are educated at all on the history or principles of anarchism, so they are using the word incorrectly. They are no more anarchist than North Korea is democratic.

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              Ending federal government != ending hierarchy or the state. As you said yourself, they’re radical libertarians, not anarchists.

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      An-caps. They’re not really anarchists in any legitimate sense of the word, but they have very good branding people. Very big in certain parts of the U.S., lotta Sov-Cits and Libertarians that fall under the umbrella supporting Trump.

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      Maybe they should have written anarcho-capitalist accelerationists…?

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    Christian accelerationists I’m assuming are those that want to force the apocalypse so they can force Jesus to show up?

    Their all-knowing, almighty Lord is too dumb to know they rigged the event?

    “Jesus hates this one trick to bring the apocalypse! Bomb the middle east here to find out!”

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      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

      Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke “Afro-American racists” to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should “introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics”.

      This book was published in 1997