• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    If Trump ends NATO he will go down in history as one of the US’s unintentionally best Presidents for all of Humanity, despite the rampant far-right agenda that would still end up crippling the US Empire.

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      True. Annoying isn’t it? I hate Trump and all he stands for yet if he manages to do that, it’d be the most beneficial measure for all the servant countries.

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        Absolutely, the memes about Trump being hand-picked by God not to restore the US Empire like Evangelicals believe, but to end it, may yet prove more accurate than not. I may be an Atheist but that would certainly be a funny outcome.

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        More than anything the trade embargo on the DPRK needs to be lifted, same with Cuba. The US trying to starve out populations into overthrowing their governments doesn’t work, all it ends up accomplishing is fostering hatred for the US and further entrenching governments they oppose in the eyes of their citizenry.

        Of course, the terror ends up being the goal of the US in the end anyways, once regime change fails it still ends up as a warning for anyone going against the US in general.

        Rather than just assuming leaders of the DPRK are stupid, recognize the hand the DPRK in general has been dealt.

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    The US won’t get rid of NATO. If they did, they would likely have to give up all of their European military bases.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      The relevance of Europe stemmed from USSR being the main adversary of the US. Today, it’s clearly China and the US is very openly saying they want to pivot to Asia. In this scenario, normalizing relations with Russia and pulling out of Europe makes perfect sense. The US can’t be everywhere at once, and they have to prioritize now that they’re dealing with multiple peer adversaries in form or Russia and China. Europe simply doesn’t have the relevance that it used to.

      NATO was created to keep Europe subservient to the US, but now there’s a rift in policy towards Russia. The US starting direct talks with Russia is a clear sign that from US perspective Russia is the more important player. Unless Europe knuckles under, then I fully expect the US to abandon it.

      Furthermore, US pulling out of NATO will provide a big stimulus for the military industry in US, which will boost the economy that Trump desperately needs right now. Europe is already in panic and they’re talking about allocating vast amounts of money to defence. Given that Europe lacks any serious military industry, much of that money will go directly to US.

      Another factor here, is that US is not terribly happy about the EU existing. Vance was pretty clear on that point at Munich. With NATO being gone, the US will have an easier time attacking the EU politically. The ideal situation from US perspective would be if EU broke apart and they could deal with individual countries from a position of absolute strength.