There’s a lot of confusion right now regarding the death toll on the stadium construction. Nevertheless the workers rights seem very dodgy to say the least and there is this anti-LGBTQ+ rights.

What are your takes on it? Is the West right in its outrage?

  • QueerCommie
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    11 year ago

    It’s terrible, but I’ll probably still watch it, as my family is

  • @Munrock@lemmygrad.ml
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    11 year ago

    I haven’t gone over the full list of criticisms against Qatar, but I can guaran-damn-tee that their criticism given vs criticism due ratio is far higher than any of the previous hosts.

    If a nation’s ethical record was grounds to disqualify them from hosting, that would be awesome. Question is why start now? The compeition’s been running for nearly 100 years, and the first time ever that an Arab nation gets invited to host is when we all start growing a conscience?

    And the non-ethics related issues? Even worse. Climate too hot?! The bar for appropriate climate set according to what’s comfortable for someone born and raised in ‘temperate’ lattitudes.

    Smells like racism on all counts.

  • ☭CommieWolf☆
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    A friend of mine landed some extra tickets to the semis, and offered to have me tag along. I’ve been hesitant to agree because of these very concerns. I’ve always wanted to attend but it makes me uneasy to think about.

    • DankZedong OP
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      11 year ago

      Personally I wouldn’t go but it’s up to you really. Bad things did happen it seems, but bad things happen in a lot of countries where I would go to. But I don’t think I could get myself over this.

  • 陆船。
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    These stadiums are always built as mega gentrification projects and the other participants use slave and criminalized migrant laborers domestically. I feel like it’s just thinly veiled Islamophobia and malding that Qatar is moving closer to the SCO more than anything.

    More than happy to sell them weapons and only call for Russian and Chinese expulsion from these types of events. It’s white man’s burden tier outrage.

    • There’s absolutely islamophobia involved in the reaction, and Qatar isn’t a western puppet, but still the points of lgbtq and migrant workers are something that can’t be ignored.

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      It is but the critic still seems valid. Regardless of the western agenda, a lot of people seem to have actually died in the country. That’s enough for me to no want to be involved with it.

  • @fruityloop@lemmygrad.ml
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    No one here cares about the anti LGBTQ+ stuff except LGBTQ+ people and the rare allies, some are talking about the abuse of workers (there’s a sizable amount of Egyptians working in Qatar in various sectors).

    I’m not the biggest fan of football but I would watch some world cup matches in the past because my entire family does, especially the final. Idk if I will this time but I also don’t get the hypocrisy because I doubt people boycotted the 1994 tournament that was hosted in the USA.

    I personally give zero shits about Qatar and kinda dislike them but that’s unrelated to the world cup stuff.

    Is the West right in its outrage?

    Broken clock is right twice a day. Even if libs are right about some stuff, I question their intentions when criticizing something.

    • @Munrock@lemmygrad.ml
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      11 year ago

      I think everyone should absolutely pirate the world cup, and they should have pirated all previous world cups.

      Not FIFA, nor any of the host countries deserve the money they make from what should belong to the public.

    • DankZedong OP
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      11 year ago

      There’s talk on r/soccer about doing this. I get their points of not giving money to broadcasts and Qatar this way, I really do.

      But for me, it would not make me feel better. I’m still watching a tournament build on horrific conditions. And I couldn’t cheer for my country in any way. ‘Yay, we won the Slave Cup!’ just doesn’t work for me.

  • They spent so much money that they could cure cancer with for stadium for people to watch gladiators in it while screaming at each other when their team loses…

    • DankZedong OP
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      11 year ago

      It’s also just peak Western slacktivism. They are all so mad, but a majority will still watch it. Some even say they will pirate it to own the Qataris. When I say I won’t watch it, people look at you as if you committed a murder.

      How hard is it to just not watch the tournament and go on with your life?

      • @Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml
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        It’s something so important in their lives for some reason, they only get to watch it one time in 4 years, so that’s maybe why they insist so much but I still don’t get it

        • DankZedong OP
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          11 year ago

          I’m a football dan myself, I know how important the WC is for the sport. But if you can look over the things that happened in Qatar all because you want to look at people kicking a ball, you might need to check yourself.

          The sport is becoming increasingly more disgusting.