NEW YORK — Leaders of Young Republican groups throughout the country worried what would happen if their Telegram chat ever got leaked, but they kept typing anyway.
They referred to Black people as monkeys and “the watermelon people” and mused about putting their political opponents in gas chambers. They talked about raping their enemies and driving them to suicide and lauded Republicans who they believed support slavery.
I’d love to say this surprises me, but it does not in the slightest.
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And instead of disavowing these scumbags, JD Vance is saying it’s not a big deal.
Just more “locker room” talk from the fascists.
Does that mean we can make Charlie Kirk jokes?
There was never any reason to stop. The GOP shot him too.
Just like how it’s “locker room” talk about committing sexual assault.
wow… this is unbelievable to everyone who has never seen or heard a republican before.
NYS Assembly benefits administrator here. I can’t wait to process the termination paperwork for Peter Giunta. It will be the highlight of my work week. Edit: I got to process the paperwork today!
Peter Giunta, who at the time was chair of the same organization, wrote in a message sent in June that “everyone that votes no is going to the gas chamber.”
Looks like you’re not the washed up one, after all.
It’s amazing to me that there are genuinely this many white nationalists/nazis irl. I honestly had no clue people were this awful and prevalent.
I’ve never seen people more openly willing to hate other humans based on race, gender or sex.
Why do we get to exist as a species if we are this toxic to ourselves?
Hating and differentiating people based on race is pretty rational as long as you believe race is a real thing. That’s kinda why it’s called race-ism.
I’ll grant “differentiating”, sure, but hating? Hard disagree.
People end up hating/rationalizing people being bad because they believe they believe people are different races.
There’s a big difference between something being rational and being able to rationalize it.
Indeed.
Race is a thing. It is a social construct, but it’s a thing.
Beings are only a different race if they can not produce an offspring together, as I recall from school 🧐
You’re thinking “species”. And even then it isn’t cut and dry.
And it might be that they’re sometimes able to have offspring, but the offspring is sterile.
I am not a biologist though, and could be wrong.
Yea, seems I recalled wrong xD
There is only one race: the human race.
Everything else are variations.
(Not counting other species of course)
Ok, but that doesn’t mean that the concept of race doesn’t exist in the minds of most humans. Unfortunately.
Exactly - just because a thing is a social construct, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist or that it somehow doesn’t affect people in real ways.
Racism is a real thing. Culture is real. Nationality is real. Ethnic heritage is real.
But race is not, in the same way that my made up category of “things that i think are bad” is not real. Yes, it exists, I guess for some people. But as a universal concept that is solidly definable, no.
Wanna try? Define me a race.
People are very very awful. The internet reveals their true selves. That’s why Ultron wanted to end humanity.
Not necessarily, I dont wanna be that guy but I was joining in with the edgy racist shite on 4chan about 15 years ago because I thought it was all humour. Its possible a lot of these are just edgy teens thinking its all japes. I mean if its not, fuck them right off, but there’s still hope that theres not as many truly awful people as might seem.
I gave up on 4chan when I started realising it looked like I was the only one laughing.
See, the thing is, though, this stuff is poison. It’s locker room bs at first, but, fundamentally it’s tribalism and deviancy division between in-groups and out-groups.
The more you dig and learn about psychology, sociology, and history, the more you ☹️ because you realize… It’s us.
My partner and I were just talking about deviancy theory earlier today, and were discussing whether or not technology has moved too fast. Yes = our brains are lizards and the internet is amplifying our current weaknesses as a species. No = ?
Yes, but THIS prevelant in real life was a suprise.
Many of them are Bandwagoners desperate for any attention. They know they will get it if they call themselves MAGA and are willing to do whatever it takes to fit in. Even if it is takes being a Nazi. Even if they are not of Nazi blood or heritage. So many that align themselves with MAGA Nazis now will be the first the put on trains if given the chance.
We do give them a lot of attention. We should but we also need to remember how badly they see out numbered
We might very well be solving that problem ourselves right now.
Both sides, right?
These are Charlie Kirk’s people.
And some idiot in one discussion still tries to convince me there is a difference between Republicans and Nazis…
As if to put an even finer point on it. I just watched blackkklansman today and they really hammered home that that bullshit is not in the past, it is the present reality we live in. Opening lemmy to see the exact shit the white supremacists in the movie spewed is almost poetic in a fucked up way.
I cruised reddit the other day and was surprised at the boomer sexism all over the page.
Everyone with morals or if you hated Nazis got banned!
Some of us just left before the IPO made everything worse.
Which it has, obviously.
You said you hate nazis. Banned for inciting violence.
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
Yup these are his people, never forget that he was a mod of r/jailbait. Pedophile party all the way through.
Removed by mod
“Character assassination” 🙄🙄🙄Please - Nazis gonna nazi.
Remember: at the national level at least, democrats (at least the liberals) are foaming at the mouth to work across the aisle with these people and pass legislation that “every” american, including these shitstains of humanity, will agree on.
lol… no, they’re not. They just know how the game is played.
How is the game played?
Well, I’m not a politician, but I’d say for starters- it’s played by people with a firm understanding of how the concept of nuance works. That just because you want something real bad, you’re not entitled to it. And change comes with a cost. And lastly, a fuck-ton lot of compromise.
I mean, look around. Everyone thinks they know what it takes to turns the wheel. Yet no one has ever been at the wheel themselves to say as much. And somehow, we all still think we can say with certainty why things happen as they do.
No job has more armchair editors than that of a politician. So I’d say unless you have a functional understanding of political law, socio-economics, and a firm understanding of national-level budgetary administration- then you don’t know how the game is played.
But by all means, let’s keep filling in the blanks with whatever fuels our outage.
Lastly, I’ve no doubt I’ll be accused of bing a “bootlicker” or a “fascists” simply because I am not as polarized as the majority of users here, I just get that not all things can be easily spelled out in simple terms. Especially things like politics.
If you’d gotten this response to asking the question “How is the game played?” to someone insinuating that they knew how the game was played, would you feel that you’d gotten a satisfactory answer?
The guy to whom you are responding is deeply unserious. Look at their comments here and elsewhere. Dont waste your time more than I already have.
Are you seriously staking this conversation? Just because I chose not to debate with people who make up nonsense just to have a point, isn’t reason to try and steer people away from conversation.
Yes.
I, too, was interested to find out. I hope they reply to you with more courtesy than they showed me.
If you want courtesy, maybe show up with enough respect to not pump the discussion full of rhetoric and opinion.
There is no way to exclude rhetoric from any discussion. That’s what a discussion is - a rhetorical exercise. Also, none of what I said was opinion. The GOP is the party of bigots and reactionaries. When neo-nazis and religious extremists vote, they vote for the GOP. That is not really up for debate. Im sorry I triggered you by reference to objective reality.
In what world is eager collaboration with aggressively bigoted and reactionary opponents a pragmatic political strategy?
Yawn….
How is the game played? In what world is eager collaboration with aggressively bigoted and reactionary opponents a pragmatic political strategy?
maybe jill Stein can tell us with all of her legislative accomplishments!
Her career is not characterized by a principled commitment to leftist or even anti-imperialist values. She exists precisely to spoil elections in a first past the post system.
I’ll tell your what; when you find yourself able to refrain from creating scenarios that serve your ideology, and are able to see things objectively- and without injecting your opinionated rhetoric into it-
I’ll answer that question.
People need to go play Mike Tyson knockout with these people. Even the women. Nazi’s should be walking scared. Give them no peace.
No one has been subjected to more vicious rhetoric and violence than President Trump and his supporters
Whiny fascists gonna whine
as always, facists and nazis are little bitch boys.
I am shocked I tell you.
If you really love him you should go out just like he did.
Indeed. If you’re a fan of Hitler, follow his example and take yourself out. Save the rest of us the bullet.
…to the surprise of absolutely no one.
Anyone surprised? Yah me either.
