“US President Donald Trump on Wednesday delivered an incoherent primetime address in which he threatened to bomb Iran “back to the Stone Ages” while also claiming negotiations to end the conflict were ongoing, remarks that provided no clear indication of when or how the illegal war of choice would end.
“Trump’s speech marked his first major address on the war since the US, in partnership with Israel, started bombing Iran more than a month ago, without congressional approval and in violation of international law. A day after declaring that Iran “doesn’t have to make a deal” to end the war, Trump said during his Wednesday speech, “If there is no deal, we are going to hit each and every one of their electric generating plants very hard and probably simultaneously”—a grave war crime.
“Collin Rees, US campaign manager at the advocacy group Oil Change International, said in a statement that “Trump’s rambling lies can’t conceal how his reckless, illegal war of aggression is sending energy prices for working families through the roof.””
Cool, so now he is floating the idea of nuking them?
This might cause Iranians to support their government despite disliking it and Iranians in the US who supported Trump’s attack on Iran might now have second thoughts.
I hated the Bush administration with everything I had, and still do, but 9/11 didn’t convince me to overthrow my government.
But Kamala Harris laughs weird…
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The reight was so concerned with their Buttery males and their “let’s go brandons” that we have an evil dictator willing to glass entire regions to keep everyone from talking about all the underage girls he raped.
If there IS a worse timeline I don’t want to see it.
No, they want this. They want to see brown people nuked into oblivion while they fantasize about raping children.
These fools think theyre actually going to heaven when they die lol
That could also be. I hate it but you’re right, that’s a real possibility.
I had a Republican roommate 25 years ago. It was eye-opening.
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Kamala was offered a choice between funding a genocide and preventing [whatever scary thing is in the headline]. She chose genocide, and she lost.
Leftists cost her the election and you’ll damn right we’ll do it again - unless you answer to our simple demands of ensuring the dem candidate is not an unabashed genocider.
None of the data suggests that leftists had any significant impact on her loss.
Nor is there any evidence that her laugh caused her defeat.
The point is that the liberal has to choose: did the “moral high ground” leftists cost her the election, and thus have the power to sway elections - or did the leftists NOT have the power to sway the election, and thus liberals should be quite about the “moral high ground” leftists?
Edit: and your point is also dubious. It’s known that Kamala’s refusal to break from Biden’s policies was a huge part of what cost her the election - bad enough that the DNC was recently in the news for hiding the Kamala campaign autopsy.
RootsAction, a progressive advocacy group that conducted its own analysis of Democrats’ 2024 loss, said in a statement that the DNC’s refusal to publicize its findings “undermines the goal of defeating Trumpism.” RootsAction’s autopsy, authored by journalist Christopher D. Cook, found “ample evidence that Harris lost many voters, especially young voters, Arab-Americans, and critical support in Michigan and elsewhere, due to the campaign’s failure to shift or even signal a potential shift in policy on Israel and Palestine.”
I’ve said it before, and I’m happy to repeat it now, I really wish I lived in the country you’re talking about, where people cared more about other people than themselves, but we really don’t. We can probably cherry pick stats all day (lies, damn lies, statistics), but 54% of Biden->Someone not Harris voters said her Gaza policy made no difference. 10% said it’d make them less likely. That’s 64% of that uncaptured demographic that chose someone other than her for a completely unrelated reason. Other top 3 issues: 24% - The economy 12% - Medicare and Social Security 11% - Immigration and border security
Seems like those are people who want less of dem policies, not more of them. Also, the above is just voters who voted for not Kamala. There were plenty of people who stayed home because they simply didn’t like her (black/woman/maybe Israel policy) and didn’t care enough to vote for someone else.
To be clear, anyone blaming leftists is just whining. Kamala failed to do the thing she was supposed to (win) and they see that as other people’s fault and not hers. At the end of the day she either got the votes or she didn’t. If they think there’s nothing she could’ve said/done to get the leftist vote, then they don’t have to blame her. In reality, she could’ve EARNED those votes and she didn’t. Maybe it would’ve cost her other votes. I don’t know for sure, but either way it was her decision and she chose not to.
Source of poll from your article: https://www.imeupolicyproject.org/postelection-polling
Also, pretty sure the laugh thing is a meme. They used the sarcasm indicator, so I’m pretty sure they’re being glib.
You’re not the only problem. But you are sure as shit one of them.
As am I. My desire to vote third party is unshakable.
Admitting you have a problem is the first step
And what if I have a problem, and willfully and intentionally do the wrong thing by voting third party anyway?
Trump promised genocide. Kamala said she’d do everything to stop genocide but wouldn’t stop selling weapons.
Americans chose the bigger genocide. The lesson from the last election is the politician that promotes the most death wins the election.
Are you phrasing this as an indictment of american politics and culture, or as a lesson dems should learn from going forward?
The lesson that the Democratic party should have learned is that “only a little bit of death and destruction” is not an effective counter-message to maximum death and destruction. Harm reduction is a good practice, but if that’s the only moral argument you can make in favor of your candidacy you’re going to lose and have only yourself to blame.
Kamala Harris tried to please everyone. She tried to please those who supported Israel by saying Israel has the right to defend itself. She tried to please those who wanted Israel to stop bombing in Gaza by saying Israel should be more careful with its bombing. Trump clearly stated he supported Israel and got the support of those who favored Israel. Those who didn’t support Israel chose not to support Harris because she didn’t commit to opposing Israel’s actions in Gaza. Harris disregarded one of Aesop’s Fables. See https://discover.hubpages.com/literature/The-man-the-boy-and-the-donkey-Aesops-fables-retold
Exactly. Try to please everyone, you’re not gonna please anyone.
Also, a woman of color unfortunately just means starting a step back.
“only a little bit of death and destruction” is not an effective counter-message to maximum death and destruction.
But it fucking should be. I would also agree that no death and destruction is all that is acceptable. It’s really disheartening that that was not a realistic choice. But if you’re on the trolley heading towards total death and destruction and pulling the lever takes you to a little bit of death and destruction, you pull that fucking lever. You don’t take the “moral high ground” and tear down the Trump tracks while criticizing the other option for not being a good enough choice and take your passengers with you. It mystifies me that anyone on the left disagrees with that.
Perfect is the enemy of good. And good is the enemy of better. If you have no good choice, you pick the better choice. Period.
The Democrats haven’t learned anything. And Republicans will only present more unhinged candidates. The system needs to be overhauled ground up.
Hard agree. Taking a step back and having the revelation that your electoralism means definitive genocide no matter who’s in power should not be a reason to dig in and defend your electoralism. It should be reason to tear everything down.
Otherwise, youre taking the stance that Palestinians have a duty to allow themselves genocided to buy yourself time for more political waffling.
they could end up worse than some red states
Its still so gets me how much this is like what was portrayed to us in the 80’s of what the us would be like if a communists or facists took over. Even before because 1984 and such. The way he extoled the good economy and how we achieved everything wanted and if he mentioned anything negative even tangentially it was to say it was so minor and short lived. I hate this scary as trump time.
